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			I would definitely like to get such presents too, but no luck so far   
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			![]() Ya Muhammed kıl şefa'at ümmetindir Hasan O Muhammed! Intercede on the day of Judgement on the behalf of Hasan, who is one of your Ummah (community of believers). ![]() Bıçak elde gerek dilde sübhan "One should have sword(knife) in his hands and the Subhan (popular name for Sorat Al-Isra from Quran) in his tongue."   1216 Amal-i Mustafa Sahib Hasan Beşe Year 1801/2 Swordmaker Mustafa Owner Hasan Beşe( beşe title suggests that he was a janissary)   Amal-i Ahmed Alemdar sahib İbrahim Ağa sene 1116 Sword maker Ahmed Alemdar (alemdar is another janissary title used by subordinate officers) Owner İbrahim Ağa Year 1704/5 I have difficulty in reading the second line, maybe a better picture helps.  
		Last edited by Zifir; 3rd October 2006 at 05:35 PM.  | 
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