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24th September 2009, 08:09 PM
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Decipher of blade mark
Can anyone please decipher/translate this mark on one of my blades, it would really be appreciated.
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25th September 2009, 04:31 PM
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There are a number of members here who can offer help with translation on this Islamic cartouche on what appears to be a 'watered' shamshir blade? It would be great to see the entire sword for context. Thank you for posting this, Best regards, Jim |
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25th September 2009, 07:57 PM
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Hi jim thank you for the reply, i am eagerly awaiting a reply on the mark i will post the rest of the blade in due course but i can guarentee one thing that you will not have seen a blade like it due to one very unique feteaure. Im very impressed with your details of the shamshir blade with just a picture of the mark.
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27th September 2009, 06:31 AM
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All the best, Jim |
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27th September 2009, 07:10 PM
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 here we're  very simply, the translation is - "Macha'Allah" either in English "as God welling" religious interjection under, there is something; three (3) signs, two (2) of them may be considerated as digit from left to right; four (4) and zero (0) the third it's not intelligible like it is, no signification at least for us, may be some one else could have an idea ??  à + Dom Last edited by Dom; 27th September 2009 at 07:24 PM. |
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27th September 2009, 09:34 PM
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Well, now it is your turn to show us the unusual blade :-)
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28th September 2009, 06:27 PM
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unique feature on blade
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28th September 2009, 07:05 PM
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Indian job,
and may be the blade too old or junk for tourists ?? you show just a minor part of your sword, (like eyes for a veiled girl )no view on the tip of the blade, of his heel, quillon, handle all of its essential element for an assessment  à + Dom |
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29th September 2009, 02:48 AM
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Dom, thank you for coming in on this with the translation.
Bally, I agree, assessments on swords are comprehensive and it is important to have the full context. The Indian suggestion by Dom is to me well placed, and these allegorical panels with animals etc. are not unusual on 'shikargar' blades which were basically seen on hunting weapons. It seems to me the Islamic cartouche is not usually found on blades with these kinds of panels, but that is simply with my own limited observation. Best regards, Jim |
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