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|  9th April 2009, 01:30 PM | #1 | 
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			hello  who can tell me what type of swort this is and the region regards semar | 
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|  9th April 2009, 07:29 PM | #2 | 
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			Penai, Sulawesi, Toraja.
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|  9th April 2009, 07:38 PM | #3 | 
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			hallo Henk bedankt wanneer kom je weer eens richt limburg gr semar | 
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|  9th April 2009, 07:50 PM | #4 | |
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  I realize that you are thanking Henk for something, but can we keep it in English please. Bedankt.     | |
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|  10th April 2009, 12:13 AM | #5 | |
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 I would say Golok, Java, Sundanese. This Golok-version is sometimes also found on S Sulawesi (Bugis, not Toraja) and on E Sumatra. Michael | |
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|  10th April 2009, 01:54 AM | #6 | 
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			yes, im agre with VVV, From Sunda, west side land of java,my homeland. i can see the pamor is "nggajih", one of pajajaran type.We call that type "gobang" with style " beuteung simeut". "gobang" mean long golok or pedang, "beutueng" is stomach, "simuet" is a kind of grasshoper. | 
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|  10th April 2009, 08:09 AM | #7 | 
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			thank you guys for the info is this a rare type to find in the book of zoneveld are no picteurs of this type ?? regards semar | 
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|  10th April 2009, 08:32 AM | #8 | |
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 Semar is thanking me indeed (bedankt) and it is an invitation with the question when I will visit him again in the county Limburg. In his kind reaction he probably forgot the language is english on the forum, even among Dutchies....... | |
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|  10th April 2009, 09:41 AM | #9 | |
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 If every variant of the golok were to be documented in a book, it would indeed be a Herculean effort. Why, even just in Tatar Soenda, traditionally stretching from the Soenda Straits to TjiPamali (Brebes, Central Java province), there are innumerable variants of the Golok Soenda. Sometimes, the same type will carry different names in different areas, while other times, the same name will be attached to different types in different areas. There is always a danger in trying to 'pigeon-hole' things too much and/or of becoming too dependent on documentation. mvg Wilujeng wargi Karang Setra | |
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|  10th April 2009, 04:02 PM | #10 | |
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 I have found 2 similar West Javanese swords in the database of the Tropenmuseum Amsterdam. They were both collected before 1924. Kind regards and till next week   Maurice | |
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|  13th April 2009, 03:08 PM | #11 | 
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			sometime we(sundanese) call that type "Sumedangan" mean with Sumedang Style, but theres no source/ book or else,,,,that mention it.  Amuk Murugul  see PM | 
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