Interesting pictures

Flavio · 24th March 2007, 07:26 PM

Hi all! I found these pictures on the web time ago. Maybe you already know them but I think that are quite interesting: the first one and the second one shows weapons from borneo (even if at least one of the klewang could be also a moro campilan) and the third one shows strange philipino pieces, I think.

carlos · 24th March 2007, 08:45 PM

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PICTURES, THERE ARE VERY INTERESTING!! I CAN SEE ONE KAMPILAN SIMILAR MY LAST ADQUISITION, AND THE REST OF THE WEAPONS ARE FANTASTICS TOO.
THANKS
CARLOS

VVV · 24th March 2007, 11:29 PM

Thanks Flavio,

The second one I believe is from mostly Timor and maybe some neighbouring islands, not Borneo.
The third one shows very unusual swords, no idea from where?
Thanks for sharing!

Michael

Dajak · 25th March 2007, 07:24 AM

If we take a look at the names 3 could be shown some weapons from borneo

Parang latok and parang Ilang

Ben

VVV · 25th March 2007, 08:27 AM

Hi Ben,

Yes I see the names but don't recognise the blades, hilts etc. as those names?
Maybe the collector (museum?) looked them up in Stone as resembling pieces?
All of them also have the same kind of ferrule!??
The Krises looks like they have no ganya, no fretwork and also the knife-point of the left one is unusual?
Flavio, do you remember from where those pictures are?

Michael

Dajak · 25th March 2007, 08:52 AM

Hi Michael dont look at the handles just at the blades the latok LOOKS like an latok blade the parang Ilang like an mandau blade

but they don t be an mandau and an latok but I would say indonesian

Ben

Flavio · 25th March 2007, 12:24 PM

Hi Michael, pictures come from the site:

http://siris-archives.si.edu

Smithsonian Institute. I have used the option "search" with the word "sword" (for the first and second, but to be honest I don't rember how I have found the third one

, maybe the same).

VVV · 25th March 2007, 05:15 PM

Thanks Flavio,

I found it too and here is the description:

Creator: Hickman, Charles W.?
Title: Dagger, 2, Steel:Kris Dagger, 2, Steel:Parang ? 1906
Contained in: Photograph collection ca. 1860s-1960s
Culture: Philippines Moro ?

Local_Number: NAA INV 05157702
Archival_Repository: National Anthropological Archives

Maybe some other forumite know how to find out more about them in the archives?

Michael

Flavio · 25th March 2007, 07:31 PM

Michael, Ben, any idea about the name and the provenience of this one?

VVV · 25th March 2007, 08:59 PM

It's from Roti, very close to Timor.

Michael

Flavio · 25th March 2007, 09:11 PM

Thank you Michael, the handle seems quite uncomfortable

tom hyle · 31st March 2007, 07:19 PM

Super cool. Thanks.

24th March 2007, 07:26 PM	#1
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Interesting pictures Hi all! I found these pictures on the web time ago. Maybe you already know them but I think that are quite interesting: the first one and the second one shows weapons from borneo (even if at least one of the klewang could be also a moro campilan) and the third one shows strange philipino pieces, I think. Attached Images

24th March 2007, 08:45 PM	#2
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 749	THANKS!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PICTURES, THERE ARE VERY INTERESTING!! I CAN SEE ONE KAMPILAN SIMILAR MY LAST ADQUISITION, AND THE REST OF THE WEAPONS ARE FANTASTICS TOO. THANKS CARLOS

25th March 2007, 07:31 PM	#9
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Michael, Ben, any idea about the name and the provenience of this one? Attached Images

24th March 2007, 11:29 PM	#3
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks Flavio, The second one I believe is from mostly Timor and maybe some neighbouring islands, not Borneo. The third one shows very unusual swords, no idea from where? Thanks for sharing! Michael

25th March 2007, 07:24 AM	#4
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	If we take a look at the names 3 could be shown some weapons from borneo Parang latok and parang Ilang Ben

25th March 2007, 08:27 AM	#5
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Hi Ben, Yes I see the names but don't recognise the blades, hilts etc. as those names? Maybe the collector (museum?) looked them up in Stone as resembling pieces? All of them also have the same kind of ferrule!?? The Krises looks like they have no ganya, no fretwork and also the knife-point of the left one is unusual? Flavio, do you remember from where those pictures are? Michael

25th March 2007, 08:52 AM	#6
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Michael dont look at the handles just at the blades the latok LOOKS like an latok blade the parang Ilang like an mandau blade but they don t be an mandau and an latok but I would say indonesian Ben

25th March 2007, 12:24 PM	#7
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hi Michael, pictures come from the site: http://siris-archives.si.edu Smithsonian Institute. I have used the option "search" with the word "sword" (for the first and second, but to be honest I don't rember how I have found the third one , maybe the same).

25th March 2007, 05:15 PM	#8
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks Flavio, I found it too and here is the description: Creator: Hickman, Charles W.? Title: Dagger, 2, Steel:Kris Dagger, 2, Steel:Parang ? 1906 Contained in: Photograph collection ca. 1860s-1960s Culture: Philippines Moro ? Local_Number: NAA INV 05157702 Archival_Repository: National Anthropological Archives Maybe some other forumite know how to find out more about them in the archives? Michael

25th March 2007, 08:59 PM	#10
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	It's from Roti, very close to Timor. Michael

25th March 2007, 09:11 PM	#11
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Thank you Michael, the handle seems quite uncomfortable

31st March 2007, 07:19 PM	#12
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Super cool. Thanks.