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			Has anyone got any pictures of any of the schützenrohr or calivers in the Landeszeug-haus Graz ? 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	I'm aware of the images of the reproductions made some years back on the engerisser.de website but would like to see images of the source. Most images from Graz just show piles upon piles of racked weapons.  | 
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			Could you please percise what younderstand under "schützenrohr" and "caliver"?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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 Matchlock firearms that are generally of a smaller bore, lighter and shorter than a full musket. A caliver or schützenrohr from c.1600 would generally be about 14mm to 17mm in calibre whilst a musket or Luntenschlossmuskete would be about 17mm to 21mm calibre. Muskets are generally longer barrelled, about 120cm in length, whilst a caliver would be under 100cm in length. With regard to weight a caliver would be generally be about 3kgs as opposed to muskets, which are usually between 5kg to 7kgs in weight.  | 
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			here some fotos of matchlocks of the Graz Arsenal
		 
		
		
		
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			Thanks for that
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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