Two personal stamps

Saracen · 18th June 2021, 12:30 PM

Good day to all.
Presumably Ottoman personal stamps. Please help with the translation of the text.
I would be very grateful for any of your opinions and information about these things. Assessment of authenticity is welcome

Norman McCormick · 18th June 2021, 04:58 PM

Hi,
There's a date on the bottom one 1272 equating to 1855/56. As for the rest I'm clueless I'm afraid.
Regards,
Norman.

Saracen · 20th June 2021, 12:44 AM

Thank you, Norman.
I also don't understand much about it, because I hope that something can clarify the translation.
I really hope that this topic will be seen by dear Kwiatek and we will learn more

For example: whether this inscription corresponds stylistically to the specified date..

Richard G · 20th June 2021, 02:13 PM

Have you reversed the photo's?
Regards
Richard

Saracen · 20th June 2021, 03:18 PM

Yes. To make it possible to read the inscriptions
Regards

Richard G · 21st June 2021, 09:56 AM

Oh,good. I was a little concerned they wouldn't work as stamps.
Regards
Richard

kwiatek · 2nd July 2021, 09:24 AM

The first is a nice Greek Ottoman seal

نقوله بنده (؟) ولد دمترى

“Nikola Bende (?), son of Dimitri”

The second one, apart from the date of 1272, does not read in any of Arabic, Persian or Turkish and does not look genuine to me. The carving looks very sharp and fresh

Saracen · 3rd July 2021, 10:26 PM

Thank you very much, kwiatek.
The second seal caused many doubts, but your help put an end to these doubts.
Thank you again for the translation of the first seal and for the clarity of about the second.

18th June 2021, 12:30 PM	#1
Saracen Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 147	Two personal stamps Good day to all. Presumably Ottoman personal stamps. Please help with the translation of the text. I would be very grateful for any of your opinions and information about these things. Assessment of authenticity is welcome Attached Images

18th June 2021, 04:58 PM	#2
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,646	Hi, There's a date on the bottom one 1272 equating to 1855/56. As for the rest I'm clueless I'm afraid. Regards, Norman.

20th June 2021, 12:44 AM	#3
Saracen Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 147	Thank you, Norman. I also don't understand much about it, because I hope that something can clarify the translation. I really hope that this topic will be seen by dear Kwiatek and we will learn more For example: whether this inscription corresponds stylistically to the specified date..

20th June 2021, 02:13 PM	#4
Richard G Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 415	Have you reversed the photo's? Regards Richard

20th June 2021, 03:18 PM	#5
Saracen Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 147	Yes. To make it possible to read the inscriptions Regards

21st June 2021, 09:56 AM	#6
Richard G Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 415	Oh,good. I was a little concerned they wouldn't work as stamps. Regards Richard

2nd July 2021, 09:24 AM	#7
kwiatek Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 156	The first is a nice Greek Ottoman seal نقوله بنده (؟) ولد دمترى “Nikola Bende (?), son of Dimitri” The second one, apart from the date of 1272, does not read in any of Arabic, Persian or Turkish and does not look genuine to me. The carving looks very sharp and fresh

3rd July 2021, 10:26 PM	#8
Saracen Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 147	Thank you very much, kwiatek. The second seal caused many doubts, but your help put an end to these doubts. Thank you again for the translation of the first seal and for the clarity of about the second.