Need help identifying a SEA knife

not2sharp · 21st February 2016, 07:15 PM

This good looking knife (small parang?) appears to be of Malaysian origins to me. It is well marked and I am hoping a translation can help us to identify the period and place of origin.

Thanks for the help.

n2s

Ian · 21st February 2016, 08:11 PM

Interesting knife n2s.

I think that I have seen some of these symbols on Moro kris before. However, the shape of the blade seems more mainland SE Asia or Indonesian in origin.

Very interested to hear from others. Thanks for posting this one.

Ian.

russel · 21st February 2016, 09:40 PM

Tiuk Pengentas?

apolaki · 21st February 2016, 09:54 PM

It looks like Khmer writing to me

not2sharp · 21st February 2016, 10:04 PM

What is most interesting to me is that the symbols on the top line on each side appear printed in the reverse order. So it is not about reading this from right to left or left to right, but from point to hilt. The first symbol on the right is the Arrow, while the opposite side has a Buddha, these are followed by a triangle and then the same 4 words or symbols and another triangle. The second line of text, which appears only on the right side, might be the maker's name.

n2s

Sajen · 21st February 2016, 10:27 PM

Hello n2s,

very nice knife you have there!

When you boring it I would be more as glad to take it from your hands!

I am nearly sure that it is a Thai knife, Southern Thailand to be correct. It's a monk blessed knife I think. The inscription is a yant prayer inscription from a monk to protect the owner and is written in Buddhist Pali.
I think it has the maha yant of Luang Por Derm engraved on its blade IMVHO. Luang Por Derm died in the 50s last century so your knife is minimum old like this.
It could be that the blade is worked from lek namphee, when you will etch the blade and it get a dark bluish colour it is worked from this special steel. I have byself a knife from this steel, when I will find the time I will post pictures.
The workmanship of your knife is very good so it could be that it belongs once to monk. Again, very nice knife, I am a little bit envious!

Regards,
Detlef

Sajen · 21st February 2016, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by not2sharp

What is most interesting to me is that the symbols on the top line on each side appear printed in the reverse order. So it is not about reading this from right to left or left to right, but from point to hilt.

Typical for a yant prayer inscription! But from hilt to point!

not2sharp · 22nd February 2016, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Typical for a yant prayer inscription! But from hilt to point!

So that would make this a real, mitmor, a "magic knife".

Thanks for the help.

n2s

Sajen · 22nd February 2016, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by not2sharp

Thanks for the help.

You are welcome!

21st February 2016, 07:15 PM	#1
not2sharp Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 210	Need help identifying a SEA knife This good looking knife (small parang?) appears to be of Malaysian origins to me. It is well marked and I am hoping a translation can help us to identify the period and place of origin. Thanks for the help. n2s Attached Images

21st February 2016, 08:11 PM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,512	Interesting knife n2s. I think that I have seen some of these symbols on Moro kris before. However, the shape of the blade seems more mainland SE Asia or Indonesian in origin. Very interested to hear from others. Thanks for posting this one. Ian.

21st February 2016, 09:40 PM	#3
russel Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Tasmania, Australia Posts: 236	Tiuk Pengentas?

21st February 2016, 09:54 PM	#4
apolaki Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 160	It looks like Khmer writing to me

21st February 2016, 10:04 PM	#5
not2sharp Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 210	What is most interesting to me is that the symbols on the top line on each side appear printed in the reverse order. So it is not about reading this from right to left or left to right, but from point to hilt. The first symbol on the right is the Arrow, while the opposite side has a Buddha, these are followed by a triangle and then the same 4 words or symbols and another triangle. The second line of text, which appears only on the right side, might be the maker's name. n2s

21st February 2016, 10:27 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,409	Hello n2s, very nice knife you have there! When you boring it I would be more as glad to take it from your hands! I am nearly sure that it is a Thai knife, Southern Thailand to be correct. It's a monk blessed knife I think. The inscription is a yant prayer inscription from a monk to protect the owner and is written in Buddhist Pali. I think it has the maha yant of Luang Por Derm engraved on its blade IMVHO. Luang Por Derm died in the 50s last century so your knife is minimum old like this. It could be that the blade is worked from lek namphee, when you will etch the blade and it get a dark bluish colour it is worked from this special steel. I have byself a knife from this steel, when I will find the time I will post pictures. The workmanship of your knife is very good so it could be that it belongs once to monk. Again, very nice knife, I am a little bit envious! Regards, Detlef