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			With a latten-inlaid maker's mark, a Gothic numeral 1 or majuscule I.  
		
		
		
			And a sheath for such a dagger, North Italian, of cuir bouilli, punched in high relief with vegetal motifs. No reference given. The first picture scanned from Hermann Historica's web catalog of 2nd-3rd May, 2011. m Last edited by Matchlock; 21st April 2012 at 09:45 PM.  | 
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			The dagger was sold some years ago at auktion without provenance for  € 700,-. The low price, because nobody believed that it was genuine, but it is. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Thus much to some ' arms experts'. Best Last edited by Swordfish; 21st April 2012 at 05:05 PM.  | 
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			A roundel dagger in the Wiener Waffensammlung, dated ca. 1500 by the museum, the grip carved with a lozenge pattern similiar to that on the barrel of a North Italian (Tusco-Emilian) snap-tinderlock arquebus, ca. 1525-30, the barrel struck with the Gothic minuscule e for Emilia on the underside (also found on cinquideae), in the author's collection (the one on top in the first photo). 
		
		
		
			The same Emilia mark is struck on the left-hand side of a similar but etched and gilt barrel of a wheellock arquebus, ca. 1540, the barrel originally also belonging to a matchlock arquebus, in the Vienna Collection. Finally attached is a cinquedea in the Museo Poldi Pezzoli, Milano, dated to 1500-10 by the museum, with the same Emilia e mark. m Last edited by Matchlock; 22nd April 2012 at 12:18 AM.  | 
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			beautiful dagger,  here a Ballockdagger from the same period. 
		
		
		
			similar type of blade geometry and a reinforced point. however the opinions on the function of such a reinforced point vary. best,  | 
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			The reinforced tip has only one function: 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	To prevent the breaking off of the tip. The tip is always the weakest part of a pointed blade. A reinforced tip enforces this part of the blade without making the blade too heavy. Best  | 
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			A bettter image of the Vienna dagger, inv.no. A 48. 
		
		
		
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			A very similar dagger, from Thalhoffer's fencing books, 1459, vol. I, fol. 63. 
		
		
		
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