A most interesting dagger

RSWORD · 27th February 2007, 03:21 AM

Would love to get opinions on this piece. While I have a pretty good idea of what country this piece originates, I am curious to get other opinions. The knife is forged from a single piece of steel, very well forged and tempered as it rings like a bell, with very, very dark patina throughout.

Andrew · 27th February 2007, 04:55 AM

Looks like an Indian khanjarli to me. I've not seen one with one-piece construction like this, however. Is it wootz?

Joe · 27th February 2007, 09:04 AM

Some sort of chilanum?

RSWORD · 27th February 2007, 11:40 PM

Guys, I am in agreement that this piece probably originates from India. It is a most unusual piece and it reeks of age. I think it might be quite old given the all steel construction, the dark patina, the thick "ricasso" between the handle and blade and the thick construction of the crossguard and handle. Really seems to be made for heavy use. Andrew, I swear I see some wootz peeking through the patination and when you hit the blade on a table or something it vibrates like a tuning fork and it rings like a bell when flicked. Not necessarily indicitive of wootz but wootz certainly does that.

ariel · 27th February 2007, 11:59 PM

It reminds me of the Naga two-handed swords: all-steel construction.

Bill M · 28th February 2007, 03:17 AM

Naga / Assam all steel two hand sword - 32" long

Jens Nordlunde · 28th February 2007, 06:00 PM

I wote for India as well, although I have never seen one like this before.

Bill, how does your sword sound, when hit on wood?

Battara · 28th February 2007, 10:40 PM

When I saw this puppy at the Louisville show when you got it, I agreed with you about the possibility of India, but the quillions at the base of the blade threw me for a loop. Jens - what do you think about these?

27th February 2007, 03:21 AM	#1
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,093	A most interesting dagger Would love to get opinions on this piece. While I have a pretty good idea of what country this piece originates, I am curious to get other opinions. The knife is forged from a single piece of steel, very well forged and tempered as it rings like a bell, with very, very dark patina throughout. Attached Images

28th February 2007, 03:17 AM	#6
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Naga / Assam all steel two hand sword - 32" long Attached Images

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27th February 2007, 04:55 AM	#2
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Looks like an Indian khanjarli to me. I've not seen one with one-piece construction like this, however. Is it wootz?

27th February 2007, 09:04 AM	#3
Joe Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: McDonough, GA Posts: 48	Some sort of chilanum?

27th February 2007, 11:40 PM	#4
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,093	Guys, I am in agreement that this piece probably originates from India. It is a most unusual piece and it reeks of age. I think it might be quite old given the all steel construction, the dark patina, the thick "ricasso" between the handle and blade and the thick construction of the crossguard and handle. Really seems to be made for heavy use. Andrew, I swear I see some wootz peeking through the patination and when you hit the blade on a table or something it vibrates like a tuning fork and it rings like a bell when flicked. Not necessarily indicitive of wootz but wootz certainly does that.

27th February 2007, 11:59 PM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	It reminds me of the Naga two-handed swords: all-steel construction.

28th February 2007, 06:00 PM	#7
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	I wote for India as well, although I have never seen one like this before. Bill, how does your sword sound, when hit on wood?

28th February 2007, 10:40 PM	#8
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	When I saw this puppy at the Louisville show when you got it, I agreed with you about the possibility of India, but the quillions at the base of the blade threw me for a loop. Jens - what do you think about these?