Dzeferdar rifle for comment.

libra · 22nd April 2011, 02:16 PM

Hi to All.
I have this Dzeferdar rifle for a long time now.
It has a heavy damascus barrel with silver engrave and a gold seal on the top.
Can anyone help me with the translation of the inscription on the barrel?
Thanks in advance.
Aristeidis.

Norman McCormick · 25th April 2011, 01:00 PM

Hi Aristeidis,
This looks like a nice rifle. I'm sorry I cannot help with any of your questions but it might be an idea to P.M. Dom or Zifir and ask them to have a look. As you have not mentioned translation in your title our Arabic speakers might not have picked up on your request. I look forward to some comments on the piece from some of the more knowledgeable members here.
Regards,
Norman.

Battara · 25th April 2011, 04:05 PM

Don't know about the translation but the barrel is gorgeous! What exquisite inlay work!

rickystl · 25th April 2011, 04:56 PM

Hi Aristeidis. Can't help you with the translations. Hope others here can.
But, I want to be one of the first to say: That is a beautiful piece. Lock looks like it's done in the Albanian style with nice engraving. Barrel is terrific.
I don't have one of these in my collection yet. But still looking. Thanks for posting pictures. Rick.

libra · 26th April 2011, 08:50 AM

Thank you all for your comments.
The lock is balkan miquelet type,little bigger than normal.
But the barell is the most beautiful part on this rifle and the most heavier

Aristeidis

Dom · 28th April 2011, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by libra

Can anyone help me with the translation of the inscription on the barrel?
Thanks in advance.
Aristeidis.

Hi Aristeidis
here the translation ...

... BUT it will need the 'Imprimatur" from Zifir

a name is not Arabic, and unknown fro us, I transcribed just the sound
Zifir perhaps should fix this
SAHEB NEZLI (?) OSMAN PASHA either OWNER NEZLI (?) OSMAN PASHA
in terms of translation, our contribution has no authentication value,
we are not experts to declare the origins referred to are real, or accurate
it's just a precision to avoid misunderstanding

à +

Dom

libra · 28th April 2011, 06:14 PM

Thank you Dom

Aristeidis.

Zifir · 29th April 2011, 01:40 PM

Thank you Dom, sounds nice to have the authority of the 'Imprimatur" on Turkish albeit I am far away from it. Libra, my guess is there several dots missing underneath in the script, so it should be "Nizibli" ( a district in todays Ayntab) Osman Pasha.

libra · 29th April 2011, 07:13 PM

Thank you Zifir!!
All the best.
Aristeidis

Marcus · 2nd May 2011, 10:36 PM

That is a really beautiful piece, but of course it is not a "rifle". Better perhaps to call it a musket.
Marcus

22nd April 2011, 02:16 PM	#1
libra Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GREECE Patras Posts: 40	Dzeferdar rifle for comment. Hi to All. I have this Dzeferdar rifle for a long time now. It has a heavy damascus barrel with silver engrave and a gold seal on the top. Can anyone help me with the translation of the inscription on the barrel? Thanks in advance. Aristeidis. Attached Images

25th April 2011, 04:56 PM	#4
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,633	Dzeferder Hi Aristeidis. Can't help you with the translations. Hope others here can. But, I want to be one of the first to say: That is a beautiful piece. Lock looks like it's done in the Albanian style with nice engraving. Barrel is terrific. I don't have one of these in my collection yet. But still looking. Thanks for posting pictures. Rick.

26th April 2011, 08:50 AM	#5
libra Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GREECE Patras Posts: 40	Thank you all for your comments. The lock is balkan miquelet type,little bigger than normal. But the barell is the most beautiful part on this rifle and the most heavier Aristeidis Last edited by libra; 26th April 2011 at 04:48 PM.

2nd May 2011, 10:36 PM	#10
Marcus Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 420	Dzeferdar "rifle" That is a really beautiful piece, but of course it is not a "rifle". Better perhaps to call it a musket. Marcus

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25th April 2011, 01:00 PM	#2
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,646	Hi Aristeidis, This looks like a nice rifle. I'm sorry I cannot help with any of your questions but it might be an idea to P.M. Dom or Zifir and ask them to have a look. As you have not mentioned translation in your title our Arabic speakers might not have picked up on your request. I look forward to some comments on the piece from some of the more knowledgeable members here. Regards, Norman.

25th April 2011, 04:05 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,342	Don't know about the translation but the barrel is gorgeous! What exquisite inlay work!

28th April 2011, 06:14 PM	#7
libra Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GREECE Patras Posts: 40	Thank you Dom Aristeidis.

29th April 2011, 01:40 PM	#8
Zifir Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Istanbul Posts: 228	Thank you Dom, sounds nice to have the authority of the 'Imprimatur" on Turkish albeit I am far away from it. Libra, my guess is there several dots missing underneath in the script, so it should be "Nizibli" ( a district in todays Ayntab) Osman Pasha.

29th April 2011, 07:13 PM	#9
libra Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GREECE Patras Posts: 40	Thank you Zifir!! All the best. Aristeidis