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			This one I found so confusing so I picked it up at a local auction here to examine it further. 
		
		
		
			I see many different influences and would appreciate other forumites inputs? Michael  | 
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			Hello VVV, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Sorry I'm next to nothing about this beauty. But a Javanese mendak?  | 
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			Hi Michael, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Judging from the fit of the parts to each other, there is a strong possibility that the parts are foreign to each other...  | 
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			Confusing keris   
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	  There are a lot of confusing keris around. In the Netherlands I can buy one every week if needed, because over the decades everything has been pulled apart and put together again.   Finding keris' that are not confusing and only have similar influences is more of a challenge these days            But still, nice hilt, nice pendok, stange blade. Wonder what the real experts can tell about this one.  | 
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			Bumping this as I hope to get some more comments. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Additional info is that the blade is perfect in the sheath and the mendak seems just slightly too large for the hilt. Do you see anything Cirebonese in this keris? Michael  | 
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			The dapur reminds me of the Karno type form which is Javanese in nature . 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Not that I'm suggesting Jawa ....  
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			 Quote: 
	
   But wow, this would be quite an amazing revelation that the Jawa Demam form we see in Sumatra could have come from Cirebon, and with so little evolution in between!
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