Found it in Maui

[kino]

I was in search of edged weapons during my vacation. The only Moro sandata I came across was the touristy type in Oahu. My luck turned in Maui. I found the Keris' a few doors down from where the Sewah was formerly residing. I believe the ivory hilted one is from Madura, and the Kocet-Kocetan is from Bali. The one from Madura has an odd blade. I could be totally wrong about the area of origin.

Photos are not very good. Here in Washington, we are plunging into darkness
early.

Comments would be appreciated.

[drdavid]

Hi Kino
the ivory hilt certainly looks like Madura, the classic winged horse appears, I dont recognise the blade, I am sure some of the members with more knowledge will help
david

[Spunjer]

Originally Posted by kino

I was in search of edged weapons during my vacation. The only Moro sandata I came across was the touristy type in Oahu. My luck turned in Maui. I found the Keris' a few doors down from where the Sewah was formerly residing. I believe the ivory hilted one is from Madura, and the Kocet-Kocetan is from Bali. The one from Madura has an odd blade. I could be totally wrong about the area of origin.

Photos are not very good. Here in Washington, we are plunging into darkness
early.

Comments would be appreciated.

kino,

i don't think that's ivory. i believe that's lava from haleakala. that's kapu, brah. you gotta send it to me so i can cleanse it. either that or one of your junggayan ivory barungs. i'm sure that will appease the aumakuas..


right on, good find braddah! when you were in oahu, did you check out the antique store by ala moana shopping center? i believe it's called Antique Alley...
also, did you go see the moro collection at bishop museum?

[David]

Hi Kino, nice finds. I don't believe i have ever see a blade quite like the one with the Madurese ivory hilt. I'd like to see how it looks cleaned up. The sheath looks Balinese. Does this blade fit snuggly in it's sheath? Hopefull someone will come up with some info on that.
The Bali keris is also a beaut! Nice double pamor.

[A. G. Maisey]

These two keris are an assembly of some nice, but unrelated, parts.

The ivory hilt is Sumenep, Madura, the blade on that hilt is a very ordinary old blade that has been altered to make it more attractive for sale, the mendak, is low grade pasar quality, the wrongko is Balinese, and appears to be quite respectable.

The kocet-kocetan hilt appears to be well carved, but it is fitted with a pendongkok, probably Peninsula, the blade on this hilt may, or may not be Balinese, I cannot say without handling it, in any case, its a nice older blade, the wrongko for this keris looks as if it could be good; if the atasan (top cross piece) is ebony, that combined with the very nice timoho gandar, makes it a good wrongko.

These are married pieces, my guess is that they were put together by a dealer or collector outside of Indonesia---this type of marriage is exceedingly rare in Indonesia. However, as I have said, a collection of quite decent pieces that could be redistributed when the opportunity occurs to create good, genuine keris. The only real dud is the blade that somebody took the Makita to.

[kino]

Howzit Spunjer,

I get chicken skin now. Maybe my anting-anting will protect me. Went to the Bishop Museum but did not see any Moro weapons. A section was closed off due to construction. They get plenny Oceanic clubs, spears and shields.
Antique Alley get choke things for sale but no Moro sandata. Kahuku store get 2 touristy Kris'.

David, the Madurese hilted Keris, scabbard doesn't fit well.

Alan, thanks for the info. I knew they had some age to them, but not too keen on spotting quality.

An additional photo of the blade with the holes. It seems to be spltting apart.

[asomotif]

The Kocetan hilt is very nice and that one has a splendid pamor too.

Worth to get a better (balinese) pendogkok / selut

And the madurese hilt is very nice too as a single piece on a small stand

Best regards,
Willem