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|  21st September 2008, 07:49 PM | #1 | 
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				 |  1530-50 wheel-lock pistols originally belonging to the Emperor Charles 
			
			... now in the Real Armeria in Madrid. The oldest two made in Augsburg/Bavaria and dated 1530 and 1531 respectively. Michael | 
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|  21st September 2008, 08:02 PM | #2 | 
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				 |  Dated 1530: the earliest of Charles V's pistols 
			
			The barrel struck twice with the sickle mark of Bartholome Marquart the Elder of Augsburg and the date 1530. This is the earliest dated wheel-lock firearm in the world. Preserved in the Real Armeria, Madrid. | 
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|  21st September 2008, 08:14 PM | #3 | 
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				 |  Dated 1531:  The world's finest pistol in existence 
			
			Gilt, carved and bone (not ivory!) inlaid all over. Another personal weapon of the Roman Emperor Charles V and preserved in Madrid. Overall lentgh 78 cm. Michael | 
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|  21st September 2008, 08:55 PM | #4 | 
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				 |  Charles V's Inventario Iluminado 
			
			Note the original scabbards that once had accompanied the guns, and the small leather pouches attached to them for accouterments! Although these water colors have sadly only been published in b/w, it has actually been possible to even identify a few suriving items. On display in the Real Armeria in Madrid there are small-size color copies from the Inventario Iluminado. So, folks, if anybody out there got contacts to the Madrid museum staff and could get me high-resolution copies - that would sure help a lot. Michael | 
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|  13th October 2008, 12:35 PM | #5 | 
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			Sweet! Hey Michael, would you happen to have more pics of the items in the Rael Armeria ? I'm specially interested in...actually, I'm interrested in everything, except armor. Best Manuel Luis | 
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|  19th October 2008, 11:16 PM | #6 | |
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				 |   Quote: 
 Hey Manuel Luis, Unfortunately photos from the Real Armerķa Madrid are extremely rare as they never seem to have cooperated with arms students. I regret I've got only those showing firearms. Best, Michael | |
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