Another mystery sword

Bill M · 11th November 2006, 08:07 PM

This is 21" from tip of scabbard to tip of horn. Scabbard and hilt seem well made. Blade is a bit more rough. Some markings on the blade. Anyone have any ideas about what this could be?

Rick · 11th November 2006, 09:00 PM

With the carving and dropped point blade it looks like it might be Thai.

Tim Simmons · 11th November 2006, 09:21 PM

Have we not seen these blade marks before? The way the scabbard works is very similar to this central Asian knife, so is the blade when you think about it. The carving is not immediately East Asian? The curved form might be derived from those curved goat horn hilted knives from Persia and central Asia.

Tim Simmons · 11th November 2006, 09:39 PM

I think the marks were on a Kukri spiral post or something like that.

Bill M · 11th November 2006, 09:39 PM

Could it be some kind of dha?

Why would they put so much effort into the hilt and scabbard and so little into the blade? Guess they wore it only for show?

Henk · 12th November 2006, 09:41 AM

Bill, I think you have to look at the direction of Sumatra or Mentawai. In Van Zonneveld you find these hilt form on "Lopah Petawaran" and on "Palitai" from the Mentawai. The steel from the blades was imported from Sumatra because forging was unknown on Mentawai.

Bill M · 12th November 2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Henk

Bill, I think you have to look at the direction of Sumatra or Mentawai. In Van Zonneveld you find these hilt form on "Lopah Petawaran" and on "Palitai" from the Mentawai. The steel from the blades was imported from Sumatra because forging was unknown on Mentawai.

Henk,

I have a Mentawai, but it is the kind with the curled "tail." I have never seen this kind of carving on a Mentawai handle. The blade on the Mentawai is poor quality also.

But I am leaning toward it being Thai.

Guess I will file it under "Oddities." I have a few of these!

11th November 2006, 08:07 PM	#1
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Another mystery sword This is 21" from tip of scabbard to tip of horn. Scabbard and hilt seem well made. Blade is a bit more rough. Some markings on the blade. Anyone have any ideas about what this could be? Attached Images

11th November 2006, 09:21 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,844	Have we not seen these blade marks before? The way the scabbard works is very similar to this central Asian knife, so is the blade when you think about it. The carving is not immediately East Asian? The curved form might be derived from those curved goat horn hilted knives from Persia and central Asia. Attached Images

11th November 2006, 09:00 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	With the carving and dropped point blade it looks like it might be Thai.

11th November 2006, 09:39 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,844	I think the marks were on a Kukri spiral post or something like that.

12th November 2006, 09:41 AM	#6
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Bill, I think you have to look at the direction of Sumatra or Mentawai. In Van Zonneveld you find these hilt form on "Lopah Petawaran" and on "Palitai" from the Mentawai. The steel from the blades was imported from Sumatra because forging was unknown on Mentawai.