Please Help Identify Asian(?) Daggers

[JISX]

Hello all,

My apologies for bothering you all.......... It's been a long time as I haven't posted to this board in a number of years. I'd like to start-off by saying I'm no collector of such "weapons" whatsoever and occasionally pick them up from estate sales, small auctions and the like when they're available/priced for "cheap"

With that being said... below are 3 such pick-ups. I believe all 3 are Asian(?) in origin, but I'm not 100% sure. I've only been able to "ID" the central piece as that of being from the Philippines(?) circa, 19th C. The blade is steel and the grip and its mounts are made of horn and silver (tested positive as such). It's 14 inches in length and is the largest of the group.

The other having a metal blade, with the grip being in a figural form, made from carved wood and brass.

The last has a spike-like octagonal steel blade with a carved bone(?) figural grip of a bird. It appears to once had inset stone(?) eyes but are now lost.

Can someone please help me ID the who, what, where, when, etc. of these daggers? I'd very much appreciate it and your time. Thank you all in advance! Kind regards, Jo

[JISX]

The rest of the images...

[Sajen]

Hello Jo,

Yes, you are correct, the middle one is a Luzon dagger, a very nice one!
The one on the left isn't a dagger, it's a knife from Bali, I would say that it's belongs to the tiuk pengentas family, see here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...=tiuk+pegentas
I've attached a similar knife from my own collection.
Can't say something about the third knife.

Regards,
Detlef

[Ian]

hi Jo,

I agree with Detlef about the one on the left and the one in the middle.

The central one is a Spanish Colonial knife dating from the 19th C or a bit earlier. The quality of workmanship is good and the blade might be Spanish, but probably made locally. The hilt is of a Spanish style from the late 18th-19th C and matches many Spanish/Spanish Colonial knife hilts of that period with its three part form (full tang, ferrule-grip-ferrule) plus a cross guard. This knife is most likely from the Philippines, but Mexico cannot be excluded. If the knife came with a sheath it would provide a clue as to region of origin.

The third one is harder to place. The blade is, I think, a former spear head mounted with a hilt. The blade appears to be well forged, and considerably better than village quality. My first thought was mainland SE Asia or Malaysia. The carved bone (?) hilt representing a bird reminds me of Chinese representations of herons in art works, although the bird in your piece seems to be a swan or duck. I'm hoping some of our long time collectors of SE Asian weapons might recognize it.

You have done well with your bargain hunting.

[Klop]

Love the middle one! And for what it's worth, my first impression on the faceted spike was a sharpening steel. Usually round/oval but faceted and even somewhat fullered do exist.

kind regards,
Eric.

[Rick]

Quite like a Lebanese handle.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...1&d=1771021532

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...1&d=1236642174