Keris ID

[adamb]

I'd much appreciate any insight into this keris; old Makassar/Ladrang type sampir, which is very narrow; I'm thinking Sumatran, possibly Mingangkabau. It didn't come with a hilt cup, so I added this one. I have not touched the blade. Many thanks

[adamb]

I would be grateful if anyone has views on the origin of this keris they are willing to share

[A. G. Maisey]

Adam, this type of keris is not my area of speciality, you need somebody with knowledge in this specific field.

However, it might help if you could clarify whether you mean the entire, dressed keris, or only the blade of the keris, what we might call the "wilah".

[adamb]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Adam, this type of keris is not my area of speciality, you need somebody with knowledge in this specific field.

However, it might help if you could clarify whether you mean the entire, dressed keris, or only the blade of the keris, what we might call the "wilah".

Thanks Alan - what I want to know about this keris, to use an Australianism I hope other forumites will understand, is the whole kit and caboodle!

[A. G. Maisey]

So --- point of geographic origin of blade, scabbard, hilt, hilt cup, and also estimate of age for all those things.

Not my field Adam, but there are people here who might care to provide an educated guess.

Just hope they read this thread.

But for now, my uneducated guess:- a keris of the Bugis people, probably 19th century, geographically maybe North Sumatera through to Peninsula.

[David]

I don't see much that is particularly Bugis in this keris. The dress looks Sumatran to my eyes and the blade as well, but while some Sumatran keris will indeed have a Bugis influence i am not seeing that here, beyond the pistol style hilt.