European Officers Mining Officers Sword?

Cathey · 27th August 2021, 08:16 AM

Hi Guys

I am in the process of researching an early English Artificers sword, when I came across a similar sword all be it a little latter that belongs to a friend of mine.

I am hoping someone can give us both more information of what they think this latter sword is and where it comes from. It looks like the second set of dates on the scabbard have been added much latter and there is also a name that has been scratched into the blade at some point. On one of the pictures, I show my older English Version along side this one for comparison.

I don’t recognise the crest which is on the scabbard and the blade either.

Any assistance will be most welcome.

corrado26 · 27th August 2021, 01:17 PM

The crest is that of the kingdom of Saxony, but the sabre is certainly not a military one but a civilan item of a higher ranking employee of mining company. The eagle with the monogramm "FR" (Fridericus Rex) at his chest is the Prussian eagle but I have no idea what this should stand for. Perhaps the owner came from Saxony - as the sabre has been made in Dresden - but the mining company was a Prussian one.

Cathey · 28th August 2021, 07:43 AM

Thanks for that information, are you able to make out the retailer name on the back of the blade?

Cheers Cathey

corrado26 · 4th September 2021, 06:08 PM

I hope this helps a little bit: Ernst Ludwig Voigt, Hauptzeughaus-Schwertfeger (sword sweeper?), Frauengasse 1 in Dresden in the years 1826-1854.

Jim McDougall · 4th September 2021, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by corrado26

I hope this helps a little bit: Ernst Ludwig Voigt, Hauptzeughaus-Schwertfeger (sword sweeper?), Frauengasse 1 in Dresden in the years 1826-1854.

Udo, you are amazing at finding this important information!

fernando · 5th September 2021, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

Udo, you are amazing at finding this important information!

Yes indeed; this and many other

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27th August 2021, 08:16 AM	#1
Cathey Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: adelaide south australia Posts: 284	European Officers Mining Officers Sword? Hi Guys I am in the process of researching an early English Artificers sword, when I came across a similar sword all be it a little latter that belongs to a friend of mine. I am hoping someone can give us both more information of what they think this latter sword is and where it comes from. It looks like the second set of dates on the scabbard have been added much latter and there is also a name that has been scratched into the blade at some point. On one of the pictures, I show my older English Version along side this one for comparison. I don’t recognise the crest which is on the scabbard and the blade either. Any assistance will be most welcome. Attached Images

28th August 2021, 07:43 AM	#3
Cathey Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: adelaide south australia Posts: 284	Mining Officers Sword Thanks for that information, are you able to make out the retailer name on the back of the blade? Cheers Cathey Attached Images

27th August 2021, 01:17 PM	#2
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,240	The crest is that of the kingdom of Saxony, but the sabre is certainly not a military one but a civilan item of a higher ranking employee of mining company. The eagle with the monogramm "FR" (Fridericus Rex) at his chest is the Prussian eagle but I have no idea what this should stand for. Perhaps the owner came from Saxony - as the sabre has been made in Dresden - but the mining company was a Prussian one.

4th September 2021, 06:08 PM	#4
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,240	I hope this helps a little bit: Ernst Ludwig Voigt, Hauptzeughaus-Schwertfeger (sword sweeper?), Frauengasse 1 in Dresden in the years 1826-1854.