BAGOBO DATU CLASS

tanaruz · 12th September 2020, 08:32 AM

Hi friends,

A Bagobo kampilan datu class.

Regards

Yves

Note: with a t'nalak abaca weave cloth (scabbard)

Ian · 12th September 2020, 09:43 AM

Hi Yves. Nice example.
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tanaruz · 12th September 2020, 12:32 PM

Hi Sir Ian,

Many thanks!

Yves

Marbel · 12th September 2020, 02:54 PM

Hello,

Very nice example.

Just to clarify, ‘t’nalak’ is very specific to the Tboli. Bagobo weaving is generally known as ‘inabal’. Both utilize abaca and the ikat method and while there are many similarities, they are unique styles. Therefor we should say that the textile on your scabbard is inabal.

Rick · 12th September 2020, 04:29 PM

I know I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer; but how is this classified as a kampilan? This begs the question: how is a kampilan defined these days? Is it now just a term for a large Philippine sword?

Battara · 13th September 2020, 12:19 AM

I would agree Rick that this is not a kampilan nor a datu class piece.

Datu glass pieces usually distinguish themselves by having lots of bead work on the scabbard.

Here is my example for comparison:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ht=datu+bagobo

Ian · 13th September 2020, 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

I know I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer; but how is this classified as a kampilan? This begs the question: how is a kampilan defined these days? Is it now just a term for a large Philippine sword?

Rick,

You are correct. This is not a kampilan-like blade. I don't know what this blade profile is called by the Bagobo, but we should not give it an incorrect name here. AFAIK, the kampilan is still defined by the traditional Moro blade. Similar blade styles among the Lumad tribes have different names. The T'boli call their traditional kampilan-like sword a tok. [This should not be confused with the general name for a sword in T'boli, which is kafilan--and awfully close to kampilan so as to be confusing).

I will try to search out Bagobo names for their swords, or maybe one of our members can tell us.

12th September 2020, 08:32 AM	#1
tanaruz Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 273	BAGOBO DATU CLASS Hi friends, A Bagobo kampilan datu class. Regards Yves Note: with a t'nalak abaca weave cloth (scabbard) Attached Images

12th September 2020, 09:43 AM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,363	Hi Yves. Nice example. . Attached Images

12th September 2020, 12:32 PM	#3
tanaruz Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 273	BAGOBO DATU CLASS Hi Sir Ian, Many thanks! Yves

12th September 2020, 02:54 PM	#4
Marbel Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 67	Bagobo Hello, Very nice example. Just to clarify, ‘t’nalak’ is very specific to the Tboli. Bagobo weaving is generally known as ‘inabal’. Both utilize abaca and the ikat method and while there are many similarities, they are unique styles. Therefor we should say that the textile on your scabbard is inabal.

13th September 2020, 12:19 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I would agree Rick that this is not a kampilan nor a datu class piece. Datu glass pieces usually distinguish themselves by having lots of bead work on the scabbard. Here is my example for comparison: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ht=datu+bagobo Attached Images

12th September 2020, 04:29 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	I know I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer; but how is this classified as a kampilan? This begs the question: how is a kampilan defined these days? Is it now just a term for a large Philippine sword?