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			Hello dear forum members, 
		
		
		
			have won recently a small padsumbalin panabas, it's just 55 cm (21.65") long. I very much doubt that this piece is an agricultural piece. And I never before have seen a small panabas with padsumbalin blade and I think that it is the first one ever shown at this place.   Any comments on this piece? Regards, Detlef Last edited by Robert; 27th March 2019 at 10:57 PM.  | 
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 Nice piece. However I'd like to differ and point out that- consistent with the size and form of traditional panabas being forged nowadays in Maguindanao- this seems to be an agricultural piece. The present-day panabas still bears resemblance to the old ones purportedly used in the battlefield or (I think more likely) for executions; but like many other Mindanao weapons, it's on a smaller scale so that it could better serve as an agricultural tool. Your piece may be the forerunner of the miniaturized versions of panabas today.  | 
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 First, there is no need to call me Sir, Detlef is enough! I've doubt an agricultural purpose of this piece since there is a engraving near the spine of the blade which would be somewhat unusual for a agricultural tool but like always I could be wrong.   It's the first small panabas with a padsumbalin blade I've seen but maybe there are others in the collections of our members!?   Or are you have seen such a piece before?Regards, Detlef  | 
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			Here is a mini-Panabas that has a similar blade profile.  
		
		
		
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 Thank you for showing your nice example for comparison.   It's the first other one I've seen until now. Is it just my imagination or see I some nicks at the edge? Could this come from gardening?   For me are nicks in an edge are a sign of combat use!?   Such a small tabas would be very effective and fast in combat.Regards, Detlef  | 
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			[QUOTE=Sajen]... For me are nicks in an edge are a sign of combat use!?  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	  .../QUOTE]Probably not confirmation of use in combat IMHO. More likely some brittleness in a hardened edge which has chipped when striking something hard--a stone, hard piece of wood or metal, etc. (or even another weapon). ![]() Ian  | 
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			Probably not confirmation of use in combat IMHO. More likely some brittleness in a hardened edge which has chipped when striking something hard--a stone, hard piece of wood or metal, etc. (or even another weapon).  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 [/QUOTE]Hi Ian, Yes, for sure there are different reasons for harmed edges, while Stones or metal by blow contact will cause break outs or bending a nick from edge to edge contact has a typical appearance when you look close. A damage from hard wood I hardly doubt, I've chopped some wood in my life, byself rusted nails in chopped wood get cut with no damage to the edge from the axe. The damage/nicks by the blade in discussion not faultlessly determinable on first view.   Regards, Detlef Last edited by Sajen; 29th March 2019 at 08:15 PM.  | 
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