Philippine yataghan??

ariel · 11th January 2019, 01:02 AM

I do not know much about Philippine weapons, but am sure I have never seen anything like that.
Doesn't the blade look yataghan-ish?
Had it not been for the pommel, I would have thought it was a late 19th century yataghan.

Am I imagining?

Ian · 11th January 2019, 01:35 AM

Hi Ariel:

This appears to be an Ilokano piece from N. Luzon. It probably falls into the general category of a dahong palay, a well recognized Ilokano blade form that has been discussed on this forum a number of times. Perhaps it is the angle of the picture that gives it a somewhat yataghan shape, but usually the width of the blade is uniform up to the area where it narrows to a central point.

Ian.

ariel · 11th January 2019, 03:31 AM

Thanks Ian.
Now I am content: no yataghans in Luzon.

xasterix · 11th January 2019, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

Hi Ariel:

This appears to be an Ilokano piece from N. Luzon. It probably falls into the general category of a dahong palay, a well recognized Ilokano blade form that has been discussed on this forum a number of times. Perhaps it is the angle of the picture that gives it a somewhat yataghan shape, but usually the width of the blade is uniform up to the area where it narrows to a central point.

Ian.

Strongly agree, definitely a dahongpalay (or dinahong-palay, depends on which area classifies it). And yes, agree that it's from Ilocos, most likely Santa, Ilocos Sur.

RobT · 14th January 2019, 07:19 PM

Hi All,

Would these two Philippine short swords qualify as having yataghan blades?

Sincerely,
RobT

Ian · 14th January 2019, 11:34 PM

Hi Rob:

These are two recurved knives/swords, and resemble a yataghan in that way, but I think that is where the similarity ends. Recurved blades are found in many cultures, probably reflecting parallel development. The yataghan is one of many examples.

Ian.

CharlesS · 14th January 2019, 11:43 PM

I believe recurved bayonets were also all the rage for a short while in the mid 19th century. Perhaps some influence from those???... though I am unaware of what bayonets the Filipinos would have seen from armies like the US, Spanish and perhaps even the Dutch.

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ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Philippine yataghan?? I do not know much about Philippine weapons, but am sure I have never seen anything like that. Doesn't the blade look yataghan-ish? Had it not been for the pommel, I would have thought it was a late 19th century yataghan. Am I imagining? Attached Images

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Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,519	Hi Ariel: This appears to be an Ilokano piece from N. Luzon. It probably falls into the general category of a dahong palay, a well recognized Ilokano blade form that has been discussed on this forum a number of times. Perhaps it is the angle of the picture that gives it a somewhat yataghan shape, but usually the width of the blade is uniform up to the area where it narrows to a central point. Ian. Last edited by Ian; 11th January 2019 at 01:55 AM.

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RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 568	Philippine Yataghans? Hi All, Would these two Philippine short swords qualify as having yataghan blades? Sincerely, RobT Attached Images

11th January 2019, 03:31 AM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Thanks Ian. Now I am content: no yataghans in Luzon.

14th January 2019, 11:34 PM	#6
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,519	Hi Rob: These are two recurved knives/swords, and resemble a yataghan in that way, but I think that is where the similarity ends. Recurved blades are found in many cultures, probably reflecting parallel development. The yataghan is one of many examples. Ian.

14th January 2019, 11:43 PM	#7
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	I believe recurved bayonets were also all the rage for a short while in the mid 19th century. Perhaps some influence from those???... though I am unaware of what bayonets the Filipinos would have seen from armies like the US, Spanish and perhaps even the Dutch.