ottoman tugra ( I think !?)

francantolin · 28th April 2018, 07:16 PM

Hello everybody,

I bought this small persian-ottoman ( old ) cup,
I think it's made of tinned copper.
Does anybody know this hallmark ( an ottoman tugra I think )
Or can anybody translate it please.

Kind Regards

Oliver Pinchot · 1st May 2018, 06:08 PM

It's inspired by an Ottoman tugra but it's not, it's reversed. The craftsman was likely illiterate and probably copied a seal.

francantolin · 1st May 2018, 10:37 PM

Interesting !

I searched on the site tugra.org ( a good site ) but didn't find anything
similar.

Maybe a fake made in India,
or by someone who makes arabic calligraphy for europeans readers

...

Are these copy frequently made ?...

Oliver Pinchot · 2nd May 2018, 02:13 AM

It isn't especially old or very good work.
So, the tugra was probably intended to increase its value.

francantolin · 2nd May 2018, 07:33 AM

Yes !
The only good work is the tugra,
that's why I bought it ( not much thankfully ).
Maybe made later by somebody else.
I'll show it to an auction house next month.

28th April 2018, 07:16 PM	#1
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 925	ottoman tugra ( I think !?) Hello everybody, I bought this small persian-ottoman ( old ) cup, I think it's made of tinned copper. Does anybody know this hallmark ( an ottoman tugra I think ) Or can anybody translate it please. Kind Regards Attached Images

1st May 2018, 06:08 PM	#2
Oliver Pinchot Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 470	It's inspired by an Ottoman tugra but it's not, it's reversed. The craftsman was likely illiterate and probably copied a seal.

1st May 2018, 10:37 PM	#3
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 925	Interesting ! I searched on the site tugra.org ( a good site ) but didn't find anything similar. Maybe a fake made in India, or by someone who makes arabic calligraphy for europeans readers ... Are these copy frequently made ?...

2nd May 2018, 02:13 AM	#4
Oliver Pinchot Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 470	It isn't especially old or very good work. So, the tugra was probably intended to increase its value.

2nd May 2018, 07:33 AM	#5
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 925	Yes ! The only good work is the tugra, that's why I bought it ( not much thankfully ). Maybe made later by somebody else. I'll show it to an auction house next month.