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Old 30th December 2017, 10:37 PM   #1
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Default handgonne (handbüchse) from Sammlung Baumann aus Rothenburg ob der Tauber

Total length is 100,5 cm, Barrel length is 21 cm, caliber is 34 mm
Sammlung Baumann aus Rothenburg ob der Tauber
(photo made by Borys Urbanski)
http://www.reichsstadtmuseum.rothen...index.php?id=51
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Old 31st December 2017, 06:18 AM   #2
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Great pictures by your friend, Alexander. The haquebut seems untouched overall.
The museum did date the piece a bit to early as the pronounced muzzle section would make this piece date around the 1460/70s.

The bore diameter seems to be original too, don't you think?
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Old 31st December 2017, 12:37 PM   #3
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Some years ago I contacted the museum regarding information about the provenance of this piece. But there are no information available when or from where Baumann has got it.
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Should i discrepancy in the museum description ?
If it has a recoil hook is a wall haquebut and not a horseman handbüchse ... right ?
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Old 1st January 2018, 01:46 PM   #5
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As far as I am informed many of the object on display in this museum came from a very well known dealer in southern Germany. So maybe that this gun is from the same origin.
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Fernando,

Happy New Year!

I wonder about the hook. Should it not be integral with the barrel ?
This hook appears attached to the stock and not part of the barrel. Can this be correct? I though our dear Matchlock taught us otherwise.

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Should i discrepancy in the museum description ?
If it has a recoil hook is a wall haquebut and not a horseman handbüchse ... right ?


Hi Nando,
It could be both true, as this illustration depicts. A Similar weird hook can be found with this gun
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showt...t=Steinb%FCchse
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