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Old 4th April 2016, 01:29 PM   #1
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It's very strangely but information about Tannenberg hangonne is very contradictory. Some sourced says that caliber of is barrel is 14,3 mm, some says that 15 or 16 or even 17,9. Unfortunately it's hard to say exactly what is the shape, diameter and length of the chamber. According to some data diameter of the chamber is 9 mm but some sources says that diameter of chamber is 15 mm. There's information that shape of the chamber is cylindrical but some sources says that chamber have bottle necked shape or cylindrical shape with short partition between chamber and barrel. So, whats the truth?
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The German Military Archiv gives the following dimensions of the "Tannenbergbüchse":

Total length 320mm
Length of the bore 272mm
calibre at the bottom of the barrel 16,8mm
calibre at the muzzle 17-17,3mm

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The German Military Archiv gives the following dimensions of the "Tannenbergbüchse":

Total length 320mm
Length of the bore 272mm
calibre at the bottom of the barrel 16,8mm
calibre at the muzzle 17-17,3mm

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Do You know, what is the real shape of chamber of Tannenberg handgonne?
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http://bummsbrigade.de/cms/index.php...nenbergbuechse
http://objektkatalog.gnm.de/objekt/W2034
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Do You know, what is the real shape of chamber of Tannenberg handgonne?
I hope, this will answer your question.


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Old 5th April 2016, 02:36 PM   #6
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I have this plans and a lot of other but Unfortunately this pictures (top and bottom) contrary to each other. In addition the bottom picture is absolutely incorrect because it shows rear part conical although I know that it is a prism with parallel edges

By the way who can translate on English this text?:

"So reichen die Angaben zum Kaliber von 14,3 mm, bis 17,9 mm, an der Mündung und von 14,6 bis 16,8 mm vor der Kammer. Die Länge des Fluges wurde zwischen 154 und 165 mm angegeben. Der Durchmesser der Kammer reicht von 9,0 bis 15,0 mm bei Pulverraumvolumina von 7,2 bis 13,8 cm³. Der Büchsenlauf der wurde im Gussverfahren aus Bronze hergestellt. Flug und Kammer verlaufen nicht exakt mittig entlang der Längsachse des Rohres. Die Oberfläche der Büchse weist grobe Feilriefen auf, die Flächen sind nicht wirklich symetrisch zueinander ausgeführt. Der Lauf wurde innen nach dem Guss geglättet und Kammer und Flug sind durch eine leichte Verengung geteilt. Die Vertiefung um das Zündloch war ursprüglich nicht als Pulverpfanne ausgearbeitet und entstand möglicherweise beim Gebrauch der Büchse durch Ausgebrennen oder Korrosion. Insgesamt erscheint die Büchse recht nachlässig gearbeitet."

"Gesamtlänge: 320,0 mm
Kaliber: 15,16 mm (nach Wlassaty: 17,2–17,9)
Länge des Laufes: 286,4 mm max.
- davon Seele: 168,4 mm
- davon Kammer: 118,0 mm
Gewicht: 1.235 g

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The data concerning the caliber reaches from 14,3mm to 17,9mm at the muzzle and from 14,6 to 16,8mm before the chamber. The length of the flight (the length of the bullet way) is between 154 and 165mm. The diameter of the chamber is from 9,0 to 15,0mm, the powder volume from 7,2 to 13,8cm³.
The barrel was casted from bronze. Flight and chamber are not exactly arranged around the length axis of the pipe.
The surface of the rifle shows some rough traces from a file.
The surfaces are not really symmetrically.
The inside of the barrel was smoothed after casting.
Powder chamber and flight are separated from each other by a slightly contraction.
The cavity around the touch hole was originally no powder pan and was formed during usage by burning and corrosion.
Altogether the rifle seems to be quite careless made.

Total length : 320,0 mm
Caliber: 15,16 mm (according to Wlassaty: 17,2–17,9)
Length of the barrel: 286,4 mm max.
Length of soul (bullet way): 168,4 mm
Powder chamber only: 118,0 mm
Weight: 1.235 g
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