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Old 24th December 2012, 12:20 PM   #1
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Arrived yesterday. Had to give a couple swords to acquire this one; there aren't many with these precise details.
The pattern is after the British New Land; the production is Portuguese, no doubt about that.
Made to equip the Municipal Guard and, in this particular case, for the Oporto Division, which is the main score, as usually everything found is from Lisbon.
The lockplate prsents the marks of the Army Arsenal and the date made. In the butt cap the initial of the Porto Municipal Guard and the user number.
The wood is got worm holes and is a bit fragilized here and there but ... what the hell. Original swivel ramrod. Brass mountings.
The specifications are those of the New Land: caliber 17,3 m/m barrel length 23 cms. total length 40 cms. weight 1,370 Kgs.

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Old 24th December 2012, 04:16 PM   #2
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Hi Fernando,
First, have you got some special relationship with S. Claus. Esq. to get your gift early, as far as I know he is still revving up the reindeer prior to take off. Anyway, nice pistol, I looked at something similar a few weeks ago obviously without the Portuguese connection but the top part of the hammer was missing so I let it go. Are you going to fill the wormholes with wax? it can look quite good and not too noticeable if done well. Remember don't point it skyward and try a shot tonight you never know who's flying above you.
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Old 24th December 2012, 04:40 PM   #3
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Hola, Fernando

Yo también, como Norman, te pregunto si vas a tapar los agujeros de polilla con cera, o si conoces algún otro método. Yo he probado con aserrín de madera (del mismo color), empapado con sellador (que debe ser nitro-celulosa)

Te felicito por el regalo y cuéntanos algo, si las manufacturas o fábricas eran estatales o privadas.

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Hello, Fernando

I too, like Norman, I wonder if you plug the holes with moth wax , or if you know any other method. I've tried it with sawdust (same color), soaked with sealant (to be nitro-cellulose)

I congratulate you for the gift and tell us something, whether manufacturing or factories were state or private.


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Old 24th December 2012, 05:50 PM   #4
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Thank you guys.
Yes, i thought about filling the wormholes, but wouldn't like to do it by myself, afraid it doesn't come out well. But it is in my agenda; other me or someone else will have to do it.
Fernando, the 'Arsenal do Exercito' has been the State arms factory for centuries. It is now the Military Museum.
You should visit it some time.

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Old 24th December 2012, 06:13 PM   #5
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Hi Fernando,
Here's a photograph of the pistol I mentioned, this one was marked Blake/London.
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Old 24th December 2012, 06:26 PM   #6
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Hi Fernando,
Here's a photograph of the pistol I mentioned, this one was marked Blake/London.
My Regards,
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The picture is small, but i would say this is the native New Land Pattern, made under Government contract.
The guy whith whom i traded my Portuguese example also has a British one, but you can imagine what my option was .

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The guy whith whom i traded my Portuguese example also has a British one, but you can imagine what my option was .

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Mmmmm let me guess.
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Not just because is my corner but also because Portuguese stuff is extremely hard to gather .
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Not just because is my corner but also because Portuguese stuff is extremely hard to gather .
Hi Fernando,
That I can understand, Scottish stuff is the same, thin on the ground and expensive when it is available.
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