Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > Ethnographic Weapons
User Name
Password
FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 20th April 2011, 11:51 PM   #1
Martin Lubojacky
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Czech Republic
Posts: 603
Default Nigerian round leather shields

Both shields bought in Nigeria. The smaller one (37 cms in diameter) should be Guruntum tribe (already posted before, now just for comparision). The big one is the heaviest shield I have ever seen (or better kept in my hands). Diameter is 70 cms, the leather is thick, heavy, with residuum of some surface treatment. I bought it in Abuja, but they should bring it from Taraba state from the mountains near Gaschaka Gumpti National Park (near Gembu town). It is allegedly Jukun shield - could anybody from the colleagues confirm this tribe allocation ?
Thanks and Regards
Martin
Attached Images
    
Martin Lubojacky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st April 2011, 08:58 AM   #2
Iain
Member
 
Iain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Morava - Olomoucký kraj - Czech Republic
Posts: 1,489
Default

Hi Martin,

I'm afraid I can't confirm exactly what tribe the large shield is from - but only point out that this basic design was used by most tribes in the area including the Jukun and as the construction methods are so similar across these pieces I'm not sure if it's possible to say exactly from which tribe - but I hope I'm wrong and someone with more knowledge can say something about it. I have some old photos showing shields from Bauchi state but that is not exactly the same area or so much help I think.

What type of leather is the shield? I had read these are often buffalo or elephant, but the elephant shields I have seen have a more bumpy surface pattern.

Best,

Iain
Iain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st April 2011, 01:06 PM   #3
Martin Lubojacky
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Czech Republic
Posts: 603
Default

Hi Iain,

Please could you post those old photos showing Bauchi shields ?

As far as the leather this two Nigerian shields are made of - I am not expert, unfortunately I do not know how to detect the "animal of origin", I think I do not have enoughh experience in this field. Both kinds of leather are thick (the thickness is, I would say, the same), but the leather of the small shield is not half as dense (or close grained) as the leather of the big one (if the big shield is made of such leather, it would be much lighter). Both shields are very hard and stiff. My unproffesional estimate would be: smaller shield - hyppo, big one - elephant (?). In any case I would exclude cattle or antelope.

If somebody of forumites has old pictures of Bauchi, Mandara, Mambila, Jukun, Vere and surrounding tribes wariors "from those times", keeping their arms and armour, I would be happy, really very happy to see them.

Regards,

Martin
Martin Lubojacky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st April 2011, 04:37 PM   #4
Tim Simmons
Member
 
Tim Simmons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: England UK.
Posts: 5,234
Default

The big one is very cool. Could these be used in the Cameroon? Would go so well with my Cameroon style Tabouka, even has the same type of black leather scabbard.
Attached Images
      

Last edited by Tim Simmons : 21st April 2011 at 05:25 PM.
Tim Simmons is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st April 2011, 10:37 PM   #5
Iain
Member
 
Iain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Morava - Olomoucký kraj - Czech Republic
Posts: 1,489
Default

Martin,

I need to scan the images for you. They are from a variety of tribes in Bauchi but aren't really good matches for your shields. Still they can be interesting. I will try to scan them tomorrow. I need to also look in through my image archive for some other shields in the area.

Tim,

Cameroon doesn't really apply as a tribal and ethnic barrier, you find the same groups on both sides of the border. So yes, this style of shield should probably be more or less applicable, although as I'm not sure of the exact attribution of your sword it's hard to say if there is a more exact match. I'd suggest reading up on the Benue area kingdoms (there were several) and their relationships to the Hausa and Fulani states for a better understanding of the linked nature of many of these kingdoms and the resulting cross over in arms and armor. A lot of diffusion likely happened in the aftermath of the Fulani Jihad. I have seen Hausa and Wandala (Mandara) shields in almost precisely the same style.
Iain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd April 2011, 08:12 AM   #6
Martin Lubojacky
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Czech Republic
Posts: 603
Default

Thank you Tim and Iain,

Tim, your short sword is nice and interesting, I bought simmilar a few years ago throuhgh eBay (they stamped it as Chad, but this Maiduguri - Maroua - N´Djamena area I think it is one cultural zoe in three states...). But my feeling is - to this kind of shield it would need something heavier
Regards,
Martin
Martin Lubojacky is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT. The time now is 10:34 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.