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Old 30th March 2011, 03:10 PM   #1
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Default Before the Ball: Clod Shot of 1375 - the Earliest Lead Gun Ammunition!

The scans attached are from Puype and Stevens' Arms and Armour of Knights and Landsknechts in the Netherlands Army Museum, 2010.

The lower image shows two similar pieces of clod shot in the author's collection. The were just chopped off from a lead bar. Klotzgeschoss is the correct German term.

I believe that clod shot was first used to drive gun arrows; they used to have a reinforcing flat tin roundel nailed to the bottom. More soon.


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Old 30th March 2011, 05:05 PM   #2
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Great stuff, Michl !!!
I am learning; thanks for that
Clod shot ... new to me, i confess . You don't happen to have yourself a spare specimen for your friend here ?
BTW, i am amazed with the "machine guns", although it comes to mind that these devices should have neen highly susceptible of hazardous results .
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Great stuff, Michl !!!

Clod shot ... new to me, i confess . You don't happen to have yourself a spare specimen for your friend here ?



These are the only two I kept. I had some more but gave them all away long ago. They sometimes are dug up in Germany and when I see the next one it will be yours!

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They are quite similar to that slugs fired from shotguns (Flintenlaufgeschosse) anyway.
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Thank You Michael for sharing this. I have a theory about making hole in bullet ( it seems that man is making hole in bullet at this picture). I will write about it
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Thank You Michael for sharing this. I have a theory about making hole in bullet ( it seems that man is making hole in bullet at this picture). I will write about it



No, Alexander,

He is touching the foremost = first in line! touchhole with a long igniting iron which holds a short piece of tinder ! in a clamp!

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They are quite similar to that slugs fired from shotguns (Flintenlaufgeschosse) anyway.


We call them zagalotes (obscure origin).
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We call them zagalotes (obscure origin).

Zagalotes seems just perfect to me, amigo, as it contains the stem of clod

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