Help To ID A Possible Philippine Club

Robert · 1st March 2011, 10:20 PM

Well knowing absolutely nothing about clubs I have purchased this item. It is purported to be of Philippine origin having been given to a serviceman in Luzon at the end of WWII. Here is a link to the item.http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...K%3AMEWNX%3AIT I have posted the auction photos below for future reference or as a warning to others in case I have made a really bad error in judgment having done this on more than one occasion already.

All help on identifying this item will be greatly appreciated.

Robert

Spunjer · 1st March 2011, 10:28 PM

That looks like a knobkerrie, robert.

Robert · 1st March 2011, 10:36 PM

Spunjer,That's what I thought at first too but having looked at every knobkerrie picture that I could find I could not find one carved like this on the ball end. If it is a knobkerrie then I now have a new addition to my very limited African collection.

Robert

Spunjer · 1st March 2011, 10:45 PM

I can't associate any tribes in luzon, or any part of the philippines for that matter, that utilizes clubs as a weapon. Maybe nonoy tan or migueldiaz can reinterate on this...

VANDOO · 1st March 2011, 11:01 PM

I HAVE TRIED TO FIND INFORMATION ON WAR CLUBS FROM THE PHILIPPINES BEFORE WITH VERY LITTLE SUCESS. CLUBS WERE SURELY USED AT SOME POINT IN THE ISLANDS HISTORY BUT INFORMATION AND EXAMPLES FOR REFRENCE HAVE ELUDED ME SO FAR.
CLUBS WOULD STILL BE USEFUL EVEN TODAY AS THEY ARE INEXPENSIVE TO MAKE AND THE MATERIALS EASY TO COME BY SO ITS EASY TO SUSPECT THEY COULD HAVE BEEN USED EVEN UP TO THE PRESENT IN SOME AREAS.
AT ANY RATE THE CLUB SHOWS GOOD PATINA, WEAR AND AGE SO WOULD BE A GOOD BUY EVEN IF ITS ZULU OR SOMETHING IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT.

I HAVEN'T SEEN A AFRICAN CLUB WITH ALL THESE FEATURES SO PERHAPS OUR AFRICAN COLLECTORS CAN HELP GET AN ID ON IT. GOOD LUCK

Robert · 2nd March 2011, 01:07 AM

I have tried to doctor the pictures up a little so maybe someone could possibly identify the type of wood that this is made from in hope that it could help in its overall identification.

Robert

1st March 2011, 10:20 PM	#1
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Help To ID A Possible Philippine Club Well knowing absolutely nothing about clubs I have purchased this item. It is purported to be of Philippine origin having been given to a serviceman in Luzon at the end of WWII. Here is a link to the item.http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...K%3AMEWNX%3AIT I have posted the auction photos below for future reference or as a warning to others in case I have made a really bad error in judgment having done this on more than one occasion already. All help on identifying this item will be greatly appreciated. Robert Attached Images

2nd March 2011, 01:07 AM	#6
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	I have tried to doctor the pictures up a little so maybe someone could possibly identify the type of wood that this is made from in hope that it could help in its overall identification. Robert Attached Images

1st March 2011, 10:28 PM	#2
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	That looks like a knobkerrie, robert.

1st March 2011, 10:36 PM	#3
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Spunjer,That's what I thought at first too but having looked at every knobkerrie picture that I could find I could not find one carved like this on the ball end. If it is a knobkerrie then I now have a new addition to my very limited African collection. Robert

1st March 2011, 10:45 PM	#4
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	I can't associate any tribes in luzon, or any part of the philippines for that matter, that utilizes clubs as a weapon. Maybe nonoy tan or migueldiaz can reinterate on this...

1st March 2011, 11:01 PM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I HAVE TRIED TO FIND INFORMATION ON WAR CLUBS FROM THE PHILIPPINES BEFORE WITH VERY LITTLE SUCESS. CLUBS WERE SURELY USED AT SOME POINT IN THE ISLANDS HISTORY BUT INFORMATION AND EXAMPLES FOR REFRENCE HAVE ELUDED ME SO FAR. CLUBS WOULD STILL BE USEFUL EVEN TODAY AS THEY ARE INEXPENSIVE TO MAKE AND THE MATERIALS EASY TO COME BY SO ITS EASY TO SUSPECT THEY COULD HAVE BEEN USED EVEN UP TO THE PRESENT IN SOME AREAS. AT ANY RATE THE CLUB SHOWS GOOD PATINA, WEAR AND AGE SO WOULD BE A GOOD BUY EVEN IF ITS ZULU OR SOMETHING IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT. I HAVEN'T SEEN A AFRICAN CLUB WITH ALL THESE FEATURES SO PERHAPS OUR AFRICAN COLLECTORS CAN HELP GET AN ID ON IT. GOOD LUCK