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Old 26th November 2010, 02:25 AM   #1
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Default What do you guys think of this barong?

A very simple kakatua carved from some dark colored hard wood... brass or copper (not sure?) ferrule/punto. There's a peach/pink colored glue stuffed in the handle that I've seen on recently made pieces before. The blade (tiuwang?) seems to be monosteel and is very scratched up from what could be steel wool, sandpaper, shark skin or whatever... Handle is crudely carved compared to many barongs' I've seen and is very slightly damaged.

So what do you guys think? Old or young? Sabah, Brunei, Palawan, or Sulu?






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Old 26th November 2010, 04:01 PM   #2
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Hello, I am far away from an expert but my humble opinion: very recent!

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Old 27th November 2010, 02:06 AM   #3
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Hello Vinny,

I'm with Detlef: looks recent.

The glue is modern and the fittings are done with too little detail for me to be able to guess at its origin. Scratches and not carefully finished blades also point towards recent manufacture; OTOH, it's always possible that an antique blade got overcleaned/mutilated and refitted - an etch would tell but I'm not holding my breath with this one...

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Old 27th November 2010, 10:01 PM   #4
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Thanks for the replies. I agree, my gut feeling is that it's recent as well, but you guys' opinion have more expertise behind them. Thus far the edge seems to be decent. Will be testing it out on mangoes and coconuts soon. The blade has a decent feeling but not quite as nice a feel as nice well-made legit antiques.
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Old 28th November 2010, 02:57 AM   #5
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I too chime in with these smart guys as this being recent.

Always good to ask - can't hurt and we are here to help each other.
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Old 28th November 2010, 03:37 PM   #6
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Nice! What's the blade length on that sucker?

I actually really like recent/modern made blades of southeast asia. Sure, they may not be as ornate or nearly as complex to forge as their antique predecessors, but they're still forged to shape most of the time, and I can't for the life of me resist a forged blade -- ESPECIALLY in an age where stock removal is so common in blade making. There's something about a blade that's been shaped by hand and hammer that I find really beautiful. Maybe it's because the stock removal option yields a more cookie-cutter result than a sculpted one? Perhaps I'm just overthinking it.

To everyone who has dated this: How recent is recent would you say?


If I had to venture a guess as to its origin, I've a feeling it's from Palawan, but I have no source to back that up so take this with a grain of salt. All I know is modern Sulu pieces have similar hilt forms, but are a little more detailed than this.


EDIT: Here's a pic of another member's older palawan barong. It looks a bit different so I'm rethinking my initial assessment.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showp...501&postcount=2

What could kukulzA's barong's origins be?

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