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|  12th July 2009, 06:55 AM | #1 | 
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				 |  TALISMANIC KERIS? 
			
			I have washed and brushed this palm-sized keris many times with lime juice and cream detergent soap, but still the tiny blade smelled specific odor -- not like parfume odor, but more like "misik" (javanese traditional non-alcoholic parfume). Very strong odor. I have washed it again and again, and separated it from its sheath. But still, it smelled the same old odor. Talismanic keris? Please share your talismanic experience here... Your supposed to be talismanic pieces too GANJAWULUNG Last edited by ganjawulung; 12th July 2009 at 07:19 AM. | 
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|  12th July 2009, 07:00 AM | #2 | 
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			And here is the sheath, small old gayaman style -- supposed to be Jawa Timur (East Javanese) simple "iras" (one piece) warangka. With very small mendhak, and very rough-crafted hilt... GANJAWULUNG | 
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|  12th July 2009, 07:06 AM | #3 | 
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			Close up of the rough motif of naga. I got this tiny 'talismanic' from Cirebon, in the north coast of eastern part of West Java. It was owned by a late "dukun" in a village. They just call this type of "jimat" (talismanic) keris, as "keris nagarunting". I don't even know the meaning of "nagarunting" (not "runcing" or sharp).. GANJAWULUNG | 
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|  12th July 2009, 07:11 AM | #4 | 
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				 |  Size Comparison 
			
			Size comparison to a normal "naga" keris and a Madurese patrem in Yogyakartan sheath and javanese "sandang walikat"... GANJAWULUNG | 
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|  12th July 2009, 09:05 AM | #5 | 
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			Interesting thread and here is my contribution. This keris is 31 cm in sheath and the blade is 18 cm. It was collected outside Banjarmasin and supposed to belong to a dukun. I donīt know where it comes from originally as it seems to be a mix of several different influences? Michael | 
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|  12th July 2009, 09:37 AM | #6 | 
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				 |  Talismanic Patrem? 
			
			Yes, yes, yesss. Thank you Michael Jackson (ouff.. Sorry) Michael, for your beautiful talismanic patrem... I bet you've dreamed 'talismanic dreams' on it too? I also have, almost the same size with yours. A supposed to be "talismanic patrem" (of sempana?). Very simple garap, with good old iron... The blade is 25 cm long (the first keris in my previous post is 17,5 cm long, the blade only)... Like the first one, this blade also smelled with specific "misik" odor. Brushed and washed it, but still smelled the same odor... GANJAWULUNG | 
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