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Old 1st February 2024, 04:51 PM   #1
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Hello dear members,

I was able to add the pictured keris recently to my collection. I am a little bit unsure about its origin. I strongly guess that it is a Straits keris but it could also be a Malay keris. Handle in Malay Jawa Deman form, strong 7 luk blade.
Another question, would you etch the blade or would you let it in this state?
45 cm inside scabbard, 43 cm without, blade with gonjo 35,5 cm.

Thank you in advance, I am curious to read your comments.
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Old 1st February 2024, 10:27 PM   #2
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Can i assume you are thinking the Sumatra side of the Straits. The blade puts me in mind of this keris.
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Old 2nd February 2024, 10:37 AM   #3
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Can i assume you are thinking the Sumatra side of the Straits. The blade puts me in mind of this keris.
Hello David,

No, I've meant Straits Bugis. I guess that your example is indeed from the Sumatran East coast. I would be more with Anthony and think that my example is more Bugis.
Here is an interesting old discussion about this thematic: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=straits

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Old 2nd February 2024, 03:00 AM   #4
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Hello dear members,

I was able to add the pictured keris recently to my collection. I am a little bit unsure about its origin. I strongly guess that it is a Straits keris but it could also be a Malay keris. Handle in Malay Jawa Deman form, strong 7 luk blade.
Another question, would you etch the blade or would you let it in this state?
45 cm inside scabbard, 43 cm without, blade with gonjo 35,5 cm.

Thank you in advance, I am curious to read your comments.

A Bugis keris and probably etching using Lime would bring out the common nice pamor. It might be from Riau region.

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Old 2nd February 2024, 10:47 AM   #5
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A Bugis keris and probably etching using Lime would bring out the common nice pamor. It might be from Riau region.
Hello Anthony,

I personally agree with you, I would classify this example as Straits Bugis keris, through the parallel batang I would rule out Bugis Sulawesi.

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Old 3rd February 2024, 12:34 AM   #6
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Hello Detlef,

I'm more leaning towards Bugis-influenced blade from the northern Melayu regions. Hilt & scabbard seem consistent, too.

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I'm more leaning towards Bugis-influenced blade from the northern Melayu regions. Hilt & scabbard seem consistent, too.
Hello Kai,

Thanks for your comment. As I said at the beginning, I'm not sure and had considered that. Are you able to justify that? Are you able to show a similar example?

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Old 6th February 2024, 05:55 AM   #8
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Need new glasses.... disregard

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