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Old 2nd November 2019, 01:25 PM   #1
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I can‘t get connection the keris area, admins please feel free to move.

This keris is on the way to me. Never saw a pic of a piece like this. Till now I heard something from west Java and east Java. Maybe somebody knows more ?
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Old 2nd November 2019, 04:04 PM   #2
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Hello Thomas,

This obviously is a keris blade that was bent on purpose during forging. From the pics, it does seem to have some age including the fittings.

It may be correctly placed in this forum though since a pretty similar example shown earlier on the keris forum got emphatically declined membership among keris proper if I recall correctly (will try to send a link later). This was coming from an Orang Jawa perspective...

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Old 2nd November 2019, 10:22 PM   #3
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Hullo Thomas,

My two-doeits' worth (first impression):

- Overall sheathed assemblage reminiscent of southern Kalamantan; in particular, a djambia/jambia/jambya/jambeya.

- Blade simplicity similar to southern Kalamantan or Soenda.

- I recall mention of a Djawa pakem which includes a keris djambia; but I don't recall its details (wintjikan).

I did some quick research and found a peninsular 7Eloek tjombong keris w/ kembang-katjang; also a plain keris w/ a ngganja (not a tjengkrong)from northern Soelawesi. So, while rare, it appears that they are not unique?

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Old 3rd November 2019, 02:56 AM   #4
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Wow - not seen one like this before.

I'll send over to the Keris section.
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Old 3rd November 2019, 04:44 AM   #5
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An interesting thing, clearly has some age, does not look like an alteration, but could be.

I doubt that it can legitimately be classified as a keris.

As Amuk comments, it does tend towards a jambiyo
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Old 3rd November 2019, 06:44 AM   #6
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I've seen one before in the collection of an important Dutch collector years ago.
Unfortunately I cann't remember details. Very nice to see another one.
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Old 3rd November 2019, 08:11 AM   #7
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Hullo Thomas,

My two-doeits' worth (first impression):

- Overall sheathed assemblage reminiscent of southern Kalamantan; in particular, a djambia/jambia/jambya/jambeya.

- Blade simplicity similar to southern Kalamantan or Soenda.

- I recall mention of a Djawa pakem which includes a keris djambia; but I don't recall its details (wintjikan).

I did some quick research and found a peninsular 7Eloek tjombong keris w/ kembang-katjang; also a plain keris w/ a ngganja (not a tjengkrong)from northern Soelawesi. So, while rare, it appears that they are not unique?

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Thank you very much amuk murugul. A research depends mostly on the right name to search. Now I’m a step forward.

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Old 3rd November 2019, 10:35 AM   #8
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See what a jambiya from Yemen looks like in comparison.
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Old 3rd November 2019, 11:17 AM   #9
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See what a jambiya from Yemen looks like in comparison.
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Hullo Jean,

Just thought I'd add this link to a southern Kalamantan djambia for comparison:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...987#post243987

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