The value of the additional visual sources for the study of historical weapons.

mahratt · 2nd January 2016, 03:30 PM

Today when someone is studying in the field of weapons very often are used additionally visual sources such miniatures, sculptures and so. What do you think it is correctly to use images on the coins for learning in the field of weaponry? Offer to you some coins with weapons images. What kind of weapons do you see on them?

Jens Nordlunde · 2nd January 2016, 04:03 PM

It is an interesting subject you have started, but from where are the coins and how old are they?
Coins are important objects to study, when it comes to which weapons were used where and when.
At first glance I dont think I see many weapons, although I am sure they are there. Please help a bit.

mahratt · 2nd January 2016, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde

It is an interesting subject you have started, but from where are the coins and how old are they?
Coins are important objects to study, when it comes to which weapons were used where and when.
At first glance I dont think I see many weapons, although I am sure they are there. Please help a bit.

http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=206666
ISLAMIC, Umayyad Caliphate. 'Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan. AH 65-86 / AD 685-705. Æ Fals (20mm, 2.67 g, 6h). Halab (Aleppo) mint. Struck circa 693-697. Caliph standing facing, hand on pommel of sword / Transformed cross on steps; wafin to left, halab to right. Walker 106ff; SICA 1, 609; Album 3529. Good VF, earthen black patina.

http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=194745
ISLAMIC, Umayyad Caliphate. temp. 'Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan. AH 65-86 / AD 685-705. Æ Fals (20mm, 4.13 g, 3h). Ilya (Jerusalem) mint. Caliph standing facing, hand on sheathed sword / Large m; filastin to either side. SICA I -; cf. Goodwin 43 (for obv. die) and 45; Album 111. Near VF. Rare.

http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=226700
ISLAMIC, Arab-Byzantine (Standing Caliph) coinage. 'Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan. AH 65-86 / AD 685-705. Æ Fals (17mm, 2.07 g, 9h). Halab (Aleppo) mint. Caliph standing facing, with left hand on sheathed sword; legend with Caliph’s name / Transformed cross; bi-halab-wāf flanking. SICA 1, 615; Album 3529. Good Fine, black desert patina.

http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=106808
ISLAMIC, Umayyad Caliphate. temp. 'Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan. AH 65-86 / AD 685-705. Æ Fals (18mm, 2.37 g). Manbij mint. Struck circa 694-697. Caliph standing facing with hand on sword / Transformed cross potent on steps; mint name in right field. SICA 679. VF, dusty patina.

http://agoraauctions.com/listing/viewdetail/2832
Arab-Byzantine, Umayyad Caliphate. 'Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan. 65-86 / 685-705. Æ Fals. Ilya Filastin (Aelia Capitolina, Jerusalem). - See more at: http://agoraauctions.com/listing/vie....fFwHjZGe.dpuf

Jens Nordlunde · 2nd January 2016, 04:38 PM

That was very fast :-), Was you next post prepared already?
The coins you show are very early, and the only thing I can see are a few swords.
I do however agree with you that the coins are important too, so I also have an Indian coin catalogue for my research.

mahratt · 2nd January 2016, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde

That was very fast :-), Was you next post prepared already?
The coins you show are very early, and the only thing I can see are a few swords.
I do however agree with you that the coins are important too, so I also have an Indian coin catalogue for my research.

Jens, of course I have had links to these coins. I wrote that this subject is being discussed in Russia.
I think that on all of the coins is shown the only one item. It is plain to see on the gold coins, which always been the best quality. But if someone has a good imagination he can see machete, saber, khanda-sword, mace or even fighting rake.

Jens Nordlunde · 2nd January 2016, 06:24 PM

These very old coins are interesting, but they are not struck very well, so it can be hard to see what is on them.
The later coind are more precise, so it is easier to see which weapon is shown.

2nd January 2016, 03:30 PM	#1
mahratt Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Russia Posts: 1,042	The value of the additional visual sources for the study of historical weapons. Today when someone is studying in the field of weapons very often are used additionally visual sources such miniatures, sculptures and so. What do you think it is correctly to use images on the coins for learning in the field of weaponry? Offer to you some coins with weapons images. What kind of weapons do you see on them? Attached Images Last edited by mahratt; 2nd January 2016 at 03:45 PM.

2nd January 2016, 04:03 PM	#2
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,713	It is an interesting subject you have started, but from where are the coins and how old are they? Coins are important objects to study, when it comes to which weapons were used where and when. At first glance I dont think I see many weapons, although I am sure they are there. Please help a bit.

2nd January 2016, 04:38 PM	#4
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,713	That was very fast :-), Was you next post prepared already? The coins you show are very early, and the only thing I can see are a few swords. I do however agree with you that the coins are important too, so I also have an Indian coin catalogue for my research.

2nd January 2016, 06:24 PM	#6
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,713	These very old coins are interesting, but they are not struck very well, so it can be hard to see what is on them. The later coind are more precise, so it is easier to see which weapon is shown.