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25th November 2008, 07:47 AM
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Tiger and the keris - do they connect?
Greetings,
Iīve been searching the forum trying to find what kind of relationship does the tiger have with the keris but have not found much, next to nothing. This strikes me odd as one would expect that a such a powerful animal original to the area from where the keris sprang from would of have made itīs way to it? Please could you advise me what is the relationship of these animals and the keris? Thanks, Jussi |
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25th November 2008, 08:13 AM
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probably no connection at all between the keris and the tiger
 Seriously, keris is more associated with snakes or dragon or even garuda, but I never come accross its connection with tiger either....
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25th November 2008, 08:31 AM
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Isnt that odd? One would expect it. I wonder what are the reasons why? Thanks, J |
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25th November 2008, 10:30 PM
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Singa / lions are found on keris.
scorpions are also used as motif and as inlays. |
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26th November 2008, 12:02 AM
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Are they lions?
Are do we just understand them as lions? Is the scorpion really a scorpion, or is it a reference to something entirely different? Understanding keris symbolism is perhaps not so simple as understanding just a word, or a picture. |
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26th November 2008, 12:03 AM
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Hello Jussi,
No, not that bewildering. A tiger is certainly strong and may be dangerous to man but in SE Asia the elephant is generally considered to be the "king of the jungle" - one of the reasons to utilize ivory with ethnographic pieces (i. e. power transfer). OTOH, the keris blade is associated with mythical "snakes" assuming the position of a god: Naga, snake deities from the Hindu pantheon. If your blade already embodies a mythical beast, there's certainly less impetus to bother with less divine animals, I guess... Best wishes, Kai |
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26th November 2008, 01:27 AM
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I believe lion and dragon motifs on keris derive from the Chinese philosophy, but with local vedic flavors
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26th November 2008, 06:32 AM
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