Damascus Tulwars

ariel · 1st July 2007, 08:48 PM

Just to show ...
Two Tulwars, one with a brass or copper ( the metal seems quite red) handle covered with thin layer of gold ( not much left of it) and wootz blade.
Another with serrated edges and mechanical damascus.

katana · 1st July 2007, 09:01 PM

NICE

Flavio · 1st July 2007, 09:06 PM

Hi Ariel, very nice, but what do you mean with "mechanical damascus"? Thank you

ariel · 1st July 2007, 09:36 PM

Mechanical damascus means that the blade was constructed from several pieces of steel: softer and harder ( high carbon). These were arranged, twisted, bent etc to result in a layered pattern.
Wootz is crystalline damascus: inherently exhibiting fine pattern with proper heating/cooling.
Bladesmiths on the Forum: am I wrong?

Richard Furrer · 1st July 2007, 09:50 PM

Hello All,
Yes indeed.
Mechanical damask is better called pattern-welded and is made from several pieces of material forge welded together. This can be bars or steel or a consolidated bloom. the billet (stack of welded pieces) can be manipulated in may ways to alter the pattern..twisting, folding, drilling etc to show the underlying layers. The material in this process does not become liquid, though slag and flux can be liquid and are forced away from the steel with hammer blows.

Crucible steel (like wootz) is made liquid (melted) in a container of some sort and the resulting cooled mixture is called an ingot and is then forged into a blade with no welding.
The surface pattern seen is the result of the chemistry within the solidified ingot.

Ric

Flavio · 1st July 2007, 10:02 PM

Thank you for your answers

Anyway Mechanical damascus doesn't have anything to do with the use of machineries? It's still handmade

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1st July 2007, 09:01 PM	#2
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	NICE

1st July 2007, 09:06 PM	#3
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hi Ariel, very nice, but what do you mean with "mechanical damascus"? Thank you

1st July 2007, 09:36 PM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Mechanical damascus means that the blade was constructed from several pieces of steel: softer and harder ( high carbon). These were arranged, twisted, bent etc to result in a layered pattern. Wootz is crystalline damascus: inherently exhibiting fine pattern with proper heating/cooling. Bladesmiths on the Forum: am I wrong?

1st July 2007, 09:50 PM	#5
Richard Furrer Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin Posts: 163	Hello All, Yes indeed. Mechanical damask is better called pattern-welded and is made from several pieces of material forge welded together. This can be bars or steel or a consolidated bloom. the billet (stack of welded pieces) can be manipulated in may ways to alter the pattern..twisting, folding, drilling etc to show the underlying layers. The material in this process does not become liquid, though slag and flux can be liquid and are forced away from the steel with hammer blows. Crucible steel (like wootz) is made liquid (melted) in a container of some sort and the resulting cooled mixture is called an ingot and is then forged into a blade with no welding. The surface pattern seen is the result of the chemistry within the solidified ingot. Ric

1st July 2007, 10:02 PM	#6
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Thank you for your answers Anyway Mechanical damascus doesn't have anything to do with the use of machineries? It's still handmade