beer for warung kopi

Marcokeris · 2nd April 2007, 09:36 AM

Hallo keris friend
I did this photo during my last trip in Yogya

David · 3rd April 2007, 02:06 PM

I have seen this beer and sometimes glasses with the logo turn up on eBay. Frankly i have mixed feelings. I mean...i like beer!

But i also wonder if it is the most respectful use of the symbolism of the keris.

BluErf · 3rd April 2007, 04:37 PM

Well, kerises are found on coins, stamps, kain sampin, t-shirts, and even on fences (I saw such a fence in a Buddhist temple in Kelantan!). They are also brands for batik shirts, perfume, oil. I have a name card holder with a keris, a pewter kris letter opener from Royal Selangor. I've seen keris brooches too. Well, keris beer... not that outrageous, I suppose.

Marcokeris · 4th April 2007, 08:07 AM

Kris is the name of the Singapore Airlines' monthly magazine too.
David beer is alcoholic and to drink a lot of beer maybe could set the drinker in conctat with upperworld or underworld

(i have said a joke..... but.. really near some arcaic people alcohol is used during unique ceremony)

David · 4th April 2007, 01:49 PM

Keris appear on stamps and coins as an honoring of the culture. One might be able to say the same about pins and other jewelry. At least those items are not exploiting a cultural symbol to sell a product. I am not really upset by it all, but it makes me wonder how these products are seen from within the culture, especially since it has been my understanding that alcohol comsumption isn't particularly encouraged by most Islamic cultures.

I, on the other hand, have had quite a few spiritual experiences with a strong bottle of dark Belgium ale.

BluErf · 4th April 2007, 05:15 PM

But the kris is not an exclusively Islamic weapon. It has a huge influence on it for sure, but we must also recognize where the rashaksa hilt on the keris in the poster came from.

2nd April 2007, 09:36 AM	#1
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	beer for warung kopi Hallo keris friend I did this photo during my last trip in Yogya Attached Images

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3rd April 2007, 02:06 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	I have seen this beer and sometimes glasses with the logo turn up on eBay. Frankly i have mixed feelings. I mean...i like beer! But i also wonder if it is the most respectful use of the symbolism of the keris.

3rd April 2007, 04:37 PM	#3
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Well, kerises are found on coins, stamps, kain sampin, t-shirts, and even on fences (I saw such a fence in a Buddhist temple in Kelantan!). They are also brands for batik shirts, perfume, oil. I have a name card holder with a keris, a pewter kris letter opener from Royal Selangor. I've seen keris brooches too. Well, keris beer... not that outrageous, I suppose.

4th April 2007, 08:07 AM	#4
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	Kris is the name of the Singapore Airlines' monthly magazine too. David beer is alcoholic and to drink a lot of beer maybe could set the drinker in conctat with upperworld or underworld (i have said a joke..... but.. really near some arcaic people alcohol is used during unique ceremony)

4th April 2007, 01:49 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	Keris appear on stamps and coins as an honoring of the culture. One might be able to say the same about pins and other jewelry. At least those items are not exploiting a cultural symbol to sell a product. I am not really upset by it all, but it makes me wonder how these products are seen from within the culture, especially since it has been my understanding that alcohol comsumption isn't particularly encouraged by most Islamic cultures. I, on the other hand, have had quite a few spiritual experiences with a strong bottle of dark Belgium ale.

4th April 2007, 05:15 PM	#6
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	But the kris is not an exclusively Islamic weapon. It has a huge influence on it for sure, but we must also recognize where the rashaksa hilt on the keris in the poster came from.