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20th May 2021, 07:50 PM | #1 |
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African spear
I'm pretty sure this is an African spear, but that is about all. This is not my area as I know next to nothing about it. I do hope it is an Assegai. It seems to have some age to it. The point is a bit rounded but the edges are sharp. I tried to show the head the best I could along with a ruler for a size indicator. So what do you all think as to what it is and possible age? Thanks.
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26th May 2021, 12:07 AM | #2 |
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Its certainly S E African and probably Zulu or allied tribe . Its a large bladed throwing assegai . I would think late 19th / early 20th C
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26th May 2021, 04:35 PM | #3 |
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How do you differentiate between the throwing spears and the stabbing spears?
I thought the smaller heads where the throwing and the larger heads the stabbing? |
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You need a thicker more rigid shaft if you're meant to thrust with a spear. Because driving force imparts a lot more stress. One may also have to deflect an incoming blow. A thicker handle is also easier to keep a grip on. Spears that are more about thrusting may even have guards or langets (something one is not likely to see on a spear that is never intended to stop an incoming blow). |
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27th May 2021, 08:20 PM | #5 |
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Hi,
Here are some Zulu or associated tribal spears of mine. The three between the dished knobkerrie and the loin covering are the obvious stabbing variety. The two on the right hand side are the obvious throwing type. The one second from the left has a throwing type head but has been cut down possibly, I remember reading somewhere, to use as an ersatz stabbing spear or maybe some Victorian traveller cut it down for easier transportation to Blighty. The end has been cut using a blade rather than a saw so maybe the first postulation is the right one. The one on the far left although the shaft is longer than the obvious stabbing type has an animal hide grip on the end the obvious reason being to afford a better grip so I would guess this is a stabbing type. The third and fourth from the right are perhaps a bit more ambiguous i.e. long shaft and long blade although one has a tapered butt which would suggest a stabbing weapon. I have also attached a photo of the six large bladed spears in order to compare the different blade types. I hope this is of some help. Regard, Norman. |
27th May 2021, 09:32 PM | #6 |
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Thanks all, special thanks to Norman. Mine seems to be the brother of yours just to the left of the knobkerrie in the central 3. Even the wrap looks similar, In your close ups which one is it? So mine is a stabber then?
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28th May 2021, 12:19 PM | #9 |
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Hi,
This thread will give you a good idea of the different spears used by the Zulu http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=iklwa Regards, Norman. |
28th May 2021, 09:59 PM | #10 |
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The seller had the description as pre 1879 war. Does this seem correct? It is supposedly an English capture.
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It is not easy to pinpoint a time frame for tribal artefacts as the form did not change much over the years. Your spear may well have the age the seller implies but it could just as well be later. Remember the first quarter of the 20thC is now a hundred years ago so items from this period are well patinated and difficult to tell apart from later 19thC items. I couldn't discount the possibility that your spear is indeed from the 19thC and if you trust your source I would then apply that dating to your spear. Hope this is of some help. My Regards, Norman. |
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