Strange blade on italian(?) old sword / B V mark

[francantolin]

Hello dear members,

I wanted to ask you some questions to identifiy this strange sword:

I think it's a real old sword,the hilt has an italian storta shape but the blade is really strange: large and short and is really flat.

Is it an italian item ( medieval ? how old ?? )

Could it be an executioneer's sword ?

Has the blade been shortened ? Or a later change ??

Does someone know the symbol-marks and the B V


I'll post later other pictures of the blade

Kind regards

[francantolin]

B V or P V mark for the thin blade...

looks a little like a ''langue de boeuf'' blade but hasn't the v shape

cut/ shortened blade ?

Kind regards

[M ELEY]

Very nice item!! No expert, but the hilt style, pommel and quillons nearly exactly match those found on Italian falchions from the 17th c. It might be a cut-down blade, but you are right that executioner's types had rounded tips, so...

[Yvain]

Maybe a cut down version of this type of blade. (Italian, late XVth - early XVIth century. The grip is a replacement, and the fittings may or may not be original.)

How is the cross section at the tip ? Is there a regular distal taper ?

[Victrix]

It looks like a typical Venetian storta grip, 16-17thC. The blade is slightly unusual shape but obviously for cutting rather than thrusting. I have seen a German felddegen/haudegen with a completely rounded tip so not that strange. I have also seen a Styrian dussack with very similar metal condition and markings (eye lash, etc) which was end 16thC. It seems there’s a little space on the ricasso on which to lay the index finger to improve the grip and balance, which would argue for a fighting sword.

[francantolin]

Hello,

Really thank you all for your precious comments !!!

I put some other pictures,

for the cross section ( I don't know if I have understood everything , my english is not that good ! ),
it is not a diamond section, it's almost flat but a little larger in the center

looks like a large ham slicer - carpaccio knife blade

An old soldier's carpaccio maker sword ?

For the little space on the ricasso,
they used it like like that ? I saw this little space on old swords and wondered why they were made like that ( Thank's !!)


I forgot to mention the size: 70cm long for 850 grams
It seems not bad balanced, ''fits'' good in the hand
so maybe not shorted too much...