Indian Zirah bhonk for comment

Edward F · 1st February 2016, 11:19 PM

New item to my collection Armor piercing dagger .Seems to be some what Rare,wootz blade and some copper weld?The engraving is a name have not nailed it down yet any info would help.A close up of the letters does not appear to be chiseled but some type of acid etching?Any thoghts on this Knife would be great.

ariel · 2nd February 2016, 11:08 AM

Very nice one!
I am intrigued by the "ears": is it a late Ottoman influence or a reflection of a common ancestor?

Kubur · 2nd February 2016, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ariel

Very nice one!
I am intrigued by the "ears": is it a late Ottoman influence or a reflection of a common ancestor?

...and if it was a central Asian / Bukharan Zirah Bhonk???

ariel · 2nd February 2016, 12:01 PM

That's exactly what I had in mind:-)
Not necessarily Central Asian in its immediate origin, but that's where Mughals came from, just like Seljuks.

Battara · 2nd February 2016, 05:37 PM

I noticed that the inscription is etched into the wootz blade.

You could be on to something regarding the "ears".

estcrh · 3rd February 2016, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward F

New item to my collection Armor piercing dagger .Seems to be some what Rare,wootz blade and some copper weld?The engraving is a name have not nailed it down yet any info would help.A close up of the letters does not appear to be chiseled but some type of acid etching?Any thoghts on this Knife would be great.

Edward, that is a nice shape, as for the copper/brass weld, I recently saw a similar copper/brass weld on the handle of a haladie, this is something I have not seen before, has anyone else seen this.

kronckew · 3rd February 2016, 08:56 AM

the brass stuff: it's brazing. easier than welding, and is at a lower temp.

mine also has 'ears' - ? for your thumb when stabbing down ?

1st February 2016, 11:19 PM	#1
Edward F Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 54	Indian Zirah bhonk for comment New item to my collection Armor piercing dagger .Seems to be some what Rare,wootz blade and some copper weld?The engraving is a name have not nailed it down yet any info would help.A close up of the letters does not appear to be chiseled but some type of acid etching?Any thoghts on this Knife would be great. Attached Images

3rd February 2016, 08:56 AM	#7
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,259	the brass stuff: it's brazing. easier than welding, and is at a lower temp. mine also has 'ears' - ? for your thumb when stabbing down ? Attached Images

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2nd February 2016, 11:08 AM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Very nice one! I am intrigued by the "ears": is it a late Ottoman influence or a reflection of a common ancestor?

2nd February 2016, 12:01 PM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	That's exactly what I had in mind:-) Not necessarily Central Asian in its immediate origin, but that's where Mughals came from, just like Seljuks.

2nd February 2016, 05:37 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	I noticed that the inscription is etched into the wootz blade. You could be on to something regarding the "ears".