Moro kris gangya covered

kino · 7th October 2013, 04:02 AM

Through my searches I couldn't find a discussion on this. I thought there was one before.
I'm wondering what the consensus was, if anyone can recall.

A Kris with its gangya covered with metal. I think it's brass.

Battara · 7th October 2013, 05:28 AM

Well I don't recall the previous discussion, but for now I'll share these impressions:

1. The brass covering may be to mask damage.

2. I noticed remnants of okir on both sides of the brass coverings.

I'm quite sure that you already thought of these, but I mention them anyway.

CharlesS · 7th October 2013, 01:15 PM

This is one of the stranger features I have ever seen on a Moro kriss.

VANDOO · 7th October 2013, 06:31 PM

VERY INTERESTING I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS BEFORE. TO ME THIS LOOKS WORSE THAN ANY POSSIBLE DAMMAGE IT COVERS. PERHAPS IT IS THERE TO PROTECT THE WEARERS CLOTHES OR REGALIA FROM BEING SNAGGED AND TORN THAT WOULD BE A PRACTICAL APPLICATION BUT TO ME WOULD STILL LOOK BAD.

David · 7th October 2013, 06:34 PM

For some reason i seem to recall seeing kris where features have obviously been defaced. The removal of greneng for example or the "elephant" face on the front side. I don't completely remember the discussion or what folks thought the reasoning was. But this seems like it could be the same thing without damaging the blade. Might be interesting to have it x-rayed to see if the features are fully intact.

Spunjer · 7th October 2013, 08:55 PM

here's a theory:
they figured the future generation (us) would go by the elephant trunk theory to figure out what tribe made the particular kris, so they put a cover on it to negate the theory...

looks like whoever owned it originally probably added the brass cover to beautify the kris, lol. with the kris in scabbard and those brass sticking out, it does look sharp.
my question is, what's the purpose of the rattan bind?

it appears both baka2x are present...

David · 7th October 2013, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunjer

my question is, what's the purpose of the rattan bind?

it appears both baka2x are present...

My guess is that the rattan is holding the pommel on, not the blade.

David · 8th October 2013, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunjer

my question is, what's the purpose of the rattan bind?

it appears both baka2x are present...

Sorry Ron, but when you presented you question like this citing the presence of the baka baka it wasn't clear to me that you were thinking about the pommel.

I guess the hardware store was closed so he made due with the rattan.

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7th October 2013, 05:28 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	Well I don't recall the previous discussion, but for now I'll share these impressions: 1. The brass covering may be to mask damage. 2. I noticed remnants of okir on both sides of the brass coverings. I'm quite sure that you already thought of these, but I mention them anyway.

7th October 2013, 01:15 PM	#3
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	This is one of the stranger features I have ever seen on a Moro kriss.

7th October 2013, 06:31 PM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	VERY INTERESTING I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS BEFORE. TO ME THIS LOOKS WORSE THAN ANY POSSIBLE DAMMAGE IT COVERS. PERHAPS IT IS THERE TO PROTECT THE WEARERS CLOTHES OR REGALIA FROM BEING SNAGGED AND TORN THAT WOULD BE A PRACTICAL APPLICATION BUT TO ME WOULD STILL LOOK BAD.

7th October 2013, 06:34 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	For some reason i seem to recall seeing kris where features have obviously been defaced. The removal of greneng for example or the "elephant" face on the front side. I don't completely remember the discussion or what folks thought the reasoning was. But this seems like it could be the same thing without damaging the blade. Might be interesting to have it x-rayed to see if the features are fully intact.

7th October 2013, 08:55 PM	#6
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	here's a theory: they figured the future generation (us) would go by the elephant trunk theory to figure out what tribe made the particular kris, so they put a cover on it to negate the theory... looks like whoever owned it originally probably added the brass cover to beautify the kris, lol. with the kris in scabbard and those brass sticking out, it does look sharp. my question is, what's the purpose of the rattan bind? it appears both baka2x are present...