Catalogue of my collection

BluErf · 8th December 2005, 04:55 AM

Since I've spent so much time uploading pictures of my keris collection (and a bit of other stuff) , I thought I might as well do a bit of 'shameless advertising'...

Pardon me...

http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...bum.php&page=1

Some are 'average joe' kerises, some are interesting, and some, imho, are quite nice actually.

Some are flashy, some have subtle beauty, and some just take time to grow a liking to. I thought it's an interesting cross-section of the world of keris.

Check back once in a while. I'll probably have new updates from time to time. Thank you.

simatua · 8th December 2005, 09:48 PM

here are some good kerises online!

Saw the site before, but then my computer was to slow.
really....really nice !! keep it up !

Saw one of your kerises mentioned as lawe saukel (lawe satukel)
I thought for myself this was a lawe satukel
-attached a photo from my own collection-

greetings

BluErf · 8th December 2005, 11:58 PM

Hi Simatua,

The pamor on you keris is very nicely executed. In fact, I was just musing about when I would be able to get a keris with pamor like that yesterday! What coincidence.

I've added pics of another Solonese keris to the album (pg 3).

Btw, you are most welcome to register at kampungnet. I believe you would be able to have your own album and share pictures of your collection with everyone! Our fellow forumnite, Alam Shah, can help you with the registration.

nechesh · 9th December 2005, 01:12 AM

Thanks for sharing Kai Wee. You have some nice pieces there, especially when it comes to fine examples of various forms of dress. Some exquisite carving there!

I left a message on one of your ukirans that i am sure you will argue with.

VANDOO · 9th December 2005, 03:13 AM

I ENJOYED LOOKING THRU YOUR COLLECTION, A VERY PLESANT THING TO DO ON A COLD SNOWEY NIGHT.

I ESPECIALLY LIKE YOUR MORO KRIS WITH THE FOSSIL ELEPHANT TOOTH POMEL AND THE KINGFISHER KERIS. THANKS FOR SHAREING.

BluErf · 9th December 2005, 01:43 PM

Hey guys, thanks for your support!

And nechesh, yes, you certainly know me.

I'd like to hear your opinion on what the hilt represents.

http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_photo.php

I thought all the major keris hilt forms (maybe except for the jawa demam) are representations of deities and supernatural beings derived from animism, Buddhism, Hinduism and the Hindu epics (Ramayana, Mahabharata).

I have read that in many parts of Southeast Asia, the coming of Islam did not result in the outright abandonment of old beliefs, and fear/respect of old deities, spirits and supernatural beings. Thus, in order not to breach the tenets of Islam, and yet not offend/discard the old deities and spirits, some carvers found ways to hide features of the original image in vegetal motifs. If you look carefully at the hilt, you can actually see 2 eyes (2 'c's beneath the crown), a nose (the 'double-hooked' oblong shape), and 2 fangs (2 'c's flanking the lower ends of the nose).

Also, if you look at the other pictures of this hilt, you can see the 'ear-covers'* on the side of the head. This 'ear-cover' goes all the way down from the side of the head to the shoulder. This part of the headdress/crown is commonly worn by the 'literal' rashaksa hilts.

So my argument would be that it is a rashaksa, and it evolved from the 'literal' rashaksa forms under the influence of Islam, which forbids the depiction of idols.

Actually, at this point, I want to pose a question to all forumnites reading this -- we always refer to these sort of hilts as representations of rashaksas, but do any these sort of hilts represent other types of figures other than rashaksas?

* - sorry, I do not know the term for this part of the headdress, but you can see the pierced through part on both sides of the neck.

http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_photo.php

http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_photo.php

8th December 2005, 04:55 AM	#1
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Catalogue of my collection Since I've spent so much time uploading pictures of my keris collection (and a bit of other stuff) , I thought I might as well do a bit of 'shameless advertising'... Pardon me... http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...bum.php&page=1 Some are 'average joe' kerises, some are interesting, and some, imho, are quite nice actually. Some are flashy, some have subtle beauty, and some just take time to grow a liking to. I thought it's an interesting cross-section of the world of keris. Check back once in a while. I'll probably have new updates from time to time. Thank you.

8th December 2005, 09:48 PM	#2
simatua Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 69	wow! here are some good kerises online! Saw the site before, but then my computer was to slow. really....really nice !! keep it up ! Saw one of your kerises mentioned as lawe saukel (lawe satukel) I thought for myself this was a lawe satukel -attached a photo from my own collection- greetings Attached Images

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8th December 2005, 11:58 PM	#3
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Hi Simatua, The pamor on you keris is very nicely executed. In fact, I was just musing about when I would be able to get a keris with pamor like that yesterday! What coincidence. I've added pics of another Solonese keris to the album (pg 3). Btw, you are most welcome to register at kampungnet. I believe you would be able to have your own album and share pictures of your collection with everyone! Our fellow forumnite, Alam Shah, can help you with the registration.

9th December 2005, 01:12 AM	#4
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Thanks for sharing Kai Wee. You have some nice pieces there, especially when it comes to fine examples of various forms of dress. Some exquisite carving there! I left a message on one of your ukirans that i am sure you will argue with.

9th December 2005, 03:13 AM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I ENJOYED LOOKING THRU YOUR COLLECTION, A VERY PLESANT THING TO DO ON A COLD SNOWEY NIGHT. I ESPECIALLY LIKE YOUR MORO KRIS WITH THE FOSSIL ELEPHANT TOOTH POMEL AND THE KINGFISHER KERIS. THANKS FOR SHAREING.

9th December 2005, 01:43 PM	#6
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Hey guys, thanks for your support! And nechesh, yes, you certainly know me. I'd like to hear your opinion on what the hilt represents. http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_photo.php I thought all the major keris hilt forms (maybe except for the jawa demam) are representations of deities and supernatural beings derived from animism, Buddhism, Hinduism and the Hindu epics (Ramayana, Mahabharata). I have read that in many parts of Southeast Asia, the coming of Islam did not result in the outright abandonment of old beliefs, and fear/respect of old deities, spirits and supernatural beings. Thus, in order not to breach the tenets of Islam, and yet not offend/discard the old deities and spirits, some carvers found ways to hide features of the original image in vegetal motifs. If you look carefully at the hilt, you can actually see 2 eyes (2 'c's beneath the crown), a nose (the 'double-hooked' oblong shape), and 2 fangs (2 'c's flanking the lower ends of the nose). Also, if you look at the other pictures of this hilt, you can see the 'ear-covers'* on the side of the head. This 'ear-cover' goes all the way down from the side of the head to the shoulder. This part of the headdress/crown is commonly worn by the 'literal' rashaksa hilts. So my argument would be that it is a rashaksa, and it evolved from the 'literal' rashaksa forms under the influence of Islam, which forbids the depiction of idols. Actually, at this point, I want to pose a question to all forumnites reading this -- we always refer to these sort of hilts as representations of rashaksas, but do any these sort of hilts represent other types of figures other than rashaksas? * - sorry, I do not know the term for this part of the headdress, but you can see the pierced through part on both sides of the neck. http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_photo.php http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_photo.php