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1st July 2011, 07:34 PM
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Shamshir (yes you've guessed it No.3) translation request please
It seems that Shamshirs are like buses ....wait for one ....and then three arrive at the same time
 Shamshir, no scabbard. Hilt slabs are made from a resin type substance....has anyone seen anything like it....and know what it is. Gold inlaid cartouche with a lot of losses. Arabic script on the opposite side. Forged with some small 'cold shuts'. Comments and a translation would, again be, much appreciated, thank you Kind Regards David |
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2nd July 2011, 12:31 AM
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2nd July 2011, 12:46 AM
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All the best David |
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2nd July 2011, 12:53 AM
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2nd July 2011, 07:52 AM
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LOL!!!!! I see what you mean. You've seen the date on the blade of this one I guess? 1315 would be 1897/8. Last edited by Atlantia; 2nd July 2011 at 08:06 AM. |
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2nd July 2011, 01:47 PM
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Thanks Gene ,still haven't worked out what material the hilt slabs are ? I know a number of Jambiya / Khanjar hilts have resin handles that simulated Rhino.....so perhaps this is the same idea. I'm hoping Dom or Alnakkas will help with the translation, on this and Shamshir no.2 Best David |
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2nd July 2011, 02:04 PM
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Well the 1897 date and the bakelite type hilt are consistent I had a French saber from the same period with a resin/Bakelite hilt.
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3rd July 2011, 12:19 AM
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the cartouche; - AMAL HASSAN ??? either MADE BY HASSAN, for the upper line we have a problem, by extrapolation, due to some erase, we should read "HOM" what is non sense, coze the translation could be; - MADE BY THE MOTHER OF HASSAN ...   very hard to imagine a woman blacksmith, in Muslim country  very sorry for "Atlantia", but despite his efforts to translate the date, we guess that it's 1310 (or 1892 Gregorian) and not 1315 I agree that it's look like a circle, but really too small to be read by Arab natives, as digit 5  SULTAN BIRATI ... the name it's not Arab, could be Perse, or even Indian ... "Birati" it's a locality in the city of Kolkata (formerly known as Calcuttā) West Bengal, India all the best à + Dom |
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