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|  12th September 2009, 12:16 AM | #1 | 
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				 |  Shashka: wootz??? 
			
			Folks, I need your help, especially the "metallurgists" I have a shashka ( no scabbard). The blade is of obviously "European" pattern, but very light and very "bendable" ( returns to true like a lightning). It has no markings. What is interesting here is the blade , and I cannot decide, is it a Sham-type wootz ( bulat) or mechanical damascus. If it is wootz, it would most likely be of Anosov's-era Zlatoust production, a rarity. If mechanical, could anybody suggest the source of such a pattern. Obviously, it is no superficial etching; the pattern is seen thru the blade, spine included. Will be most grateful for opinions. | 
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|  12th September 2009, 01:03 AM | #2 | 
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			Hmm, reminds me of my Bowie knife... http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=8292 | 
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|  12th September 2009, 01:47 AM | #3 | 
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			Yes, indeed. quite reminiscent. I spoke with Russian collectors: all told me that Anosov's "bulat" was a very, very coarse wootz. That is why I am so confused: will the "very, very coarse" wootz look like that? | 
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|  12th September 2009, 01:57 AM | #4 | 
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			Reminds me of this one: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=8118
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|  12th September 2009, 02:07 AM | #5 | 
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			Ariel, I did notice some time back a Karabela hilted Shamshir that had the exact same pattern through the blade...so at a guess I'd say your on the money with this one, incidentally it sold for huge bucks. Gav | 
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|  12th September 2009, 02:58 AM | #6 | 
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			I am not a metallurgist - actually quite the opposite, but I vote - sham wootz. This is probably mostly due to wishful thinking on my part, as I have a kindjal with a similar pattern visible throughout the blade - pictures attached.  Regards, Teodor | 
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|  12th September 2009, 03:34 AM | #7 | 
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			My vote is sham wootz also    | 
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|  12th September 2009, 03:32 PM | #8 | 
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			Nice blades!  Could be shear steel, the 'other' pre-Bessemer way to make steel from iron. Here is a pic of a lightly etched wood chisel made of shear steel, the laminations can be coase or fine depending on the amount of processing. It can look almost exactly like sham wootz   | 
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