Superimposed firearms

Marcus den toom · 5th December 2013, 06:00 PM

I couldn't find to much information on superimposed firearms on this forum, so i hope i am not repetetive

Not to much information from my side for the moment, only pictures i want to share. Hopefully this will spark some discussion

Matchlock · 5th December 2013, 06:30 PM

The correct term is superimposed load firearms

, just like the title of D.R. Baxer's standard reference work (hard to find and extremely (!) expensive - I paid 300 euro; a copy is in my own library).
P.S. I just noted it's offered at 180 € at abebooks ...

The reason of course is that the loads in these guns were superimposed, not the firearms themselves.

BTW, sometimes the SEARCH button on the forum is of some help

- please see my threads:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...erimposed+load

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...erimposed+load

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...erimposed+load

Attached please find a scheme of the superimposed load principle of a four-barreled mid-17th c. wheellock carbine, from D.R. Baxter, 1966.

Best,
m

Marcus den toom · 5th December 2013, 06:58 PM

Aaaah darn (sorry ) i knew i had seen something similiar before, sorry michael

Fernando K · 5th December 2013, 07:56 PM

Hello:

Just to say that I think that the two arms of the beginning of the thread, are not superimposed loads, but two guns (barrel)

Fernando K

Matchlock · 5th December 2013, 08:13 PM

Although I did not author this thread: exactly, Fernando K, thanks!
Of course these are locks from over-and-under-barrel guns, not from superimposed-load firearms.
Marcus?

Best,
Michael

Marcus den toom · 5th December 2013, 08:55 PM

correct again, ouch not a good day for me.

The multiple bullets on a row configuration is know to me, but i doubt it was used to often. I read that the bullets tended to get stuck inside the barrel?
On the other hand, i have seen replica's beeing fired without trouble. (not because they where replica's but because there is a lot of sense in the idea).

if i remember correctly (and that is pretty hard for me today apparently) i recall a firearm which used a trail of gunpowder in the middle of 2 barrels. With multiple holes in the barrel with a corresponding load of powder and bullet lined up.

5th December 2013, 06:00 PM	#1
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 541	Superimposed firearms I couldn't find to much information on superimposed firearms on this forum, so i hope i am not repetetive Not to much information from my side for the moment, only pictures i want to share. Hopefully this will spark some discussion Last edited by Robert; 6th December 2013 at 09:11 PM.

5th December 2013, 06:30 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	The correct term is superimposed load firearms , just like the title of D.R. Baxer's standard reference work (hard to find and extremely (!) expensive - I paid 300 euro; a copy is in my own library). P.S. I just noted it's offered at 180 € at abebooks ... The reason of course is that the loads in these guns were superimposed, not the firearms themselves. BTW, sometimes the SEARCH button on the forum is of some help - please see my threads: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...erimposed+load http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...erimposed+load http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...erimposed+load Attached please find a scheme of the superimposed load principle of a four-barreled mid-17th c. wheellock carbine, from D.R. Baxter, 1966. Best, m Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 5th December 2013 at 08:37 PM.

5th December 2013, 06:58 PM	#3
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 541	Aaaah darn (sorry ) i knew i had seen something similiar before, sorry michael

5th December 2013, 07:56 PM	#4
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 672	Hello: Just to say that I think that the two arms of the beginning of the thread, are not superimposed loads, but two guns (barrel) Fernando K

5th December 2013, 08:13 PM	#5
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Although I did not author this thread: exactly, Fernando K, thanks! Of course these are locks from over-and-under-barrel guns, not from superimposed-load firearms. Marcus? Best, Michael

5th December 2013, 08:55 PM	#6
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 541	correct again, ouch not a good day for me. The multiple bullets on a row configuration is know to me, but i doubt it was used to often. I read that the bullets tended to get stuck inside the barrel? On the other hand, i have seen replica's beeing fired without trouble. (not because they where replica's but because there is a lot of sense in the idea). if i remember correctly (and that is pretty hard for me today apparently) i recall a firearm which used a trail of gunpowder in the middle of 2 barrels. With multiple holes in the barrel with a corresponding load of powder and bullet lined up.