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Old 29th July 2009, 01:09 PM   #1
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Thank you Lew, Tribalarms and Rick (RSword),

for your PM's , very much appreciated.


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Old 29th July 2009, 08:24 PM   #2
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David, I do hope this is R horn.

I do not want to take the wind from your sails, I have exprienced it enough myself and proofing your point though a PC is hard work. What one has to bare in mind is how large the horns of some African cattle are. The tips of Bovine horn are solid. I myself am unsure about the item. I like it and was watching it.
One thing I can say is that as a form it lacks status and gravitas in its production, it is also rather short.
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Old 29th July 2009, 10:14 PM   #3
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David, I do hope this is R horn.

I do not want to take the wind from your sails, I have exprienced it enough myself and proofing your point though a PC is hard work. What one has to bare in mind is how large the horns of some African cattle are. The tips of Bovine horn are solid. I myself am unsure about the item. I like it and was watching it.
One thing I can say is that as a form it lacks status and gravitas in its production, it is also rather short.

Hi Tim,
there is no bony core (evident in bovine horn), the 'knob' / handle end has an 'orange textured' surface. Hot pin test proves keratin. Using a 'wetted' hand' I can grip this as easily as with a 'dry' hand.
I am sure that this is Rhino.

" ...lacks status and gravitas in its production, it is also rather short" ....not certain what you mean. Both of Artzis examples have larger heads (one only slightly), mine is 1 3/4" x 1 3/4" (one of his is 2"x2") however, in length mine is the same as the longest ie 22", the other was 'only' 16.5". I cannot see any significant difference in their production Other than some Rhino horn 'hafted' axes I cannot found any other picture of similar knobkerries, if you have pictures of examples that have gravitas and status please post them, so that I can 'see what you mean'.

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Old 29th July 2009, 10:30 PM   #4
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David

Can you post a clear close up of the head side view and top view looking down. It looks like rhino but better pics will put the question to rest.
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Old 29th July 2009, 10:53 PM   #5
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Can you post a clear close up of the head side view and top view looking down. It looks like rhino but better pics will put the question to rest.
Hi Lew,
will try, there is a build-up of 'patina' / darkening of both ends, it's easy to see the tubular structure when under the right lighting situation and using a magnifying glass. Will try and replicate in a photo.

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Old 29th July 2009, 11:20 PM   #6
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Hope these pictures are OK ....had to clean of some of the surface 'build-up' so that the structure is more evident.

The 'slot' cut in the upper most surface is something I had not really taken notice of before. This slot is not a split or damage, as I had first thought....now the area is cleaner I can see it was carved along time ago. I would say that the original 'concept' was undoubtably 'phallic' and a 'power' symbol

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Most definately rhino

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