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|  17th February 2005, 05:37 PM | #1 | 
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			You like edged weapons? Ok here they are. More than you can watch and i can upload at once. From Military Museum in Istanbul. Around 80 pics taken by me. I will continue the series when i have time. Keep visiting periodically    | 
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|  17th February 2005, 05:43 PM | #2 | 
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			Thanks Erlikhan, this looks like it is going to be a great thread.
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|  17th February 2005, 05:47 PM | #3 | 
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			1- Original Janissary costume with its mountings 2- Sword of Suleyman 1, the magnificent. 1530. it writes "ones who died by your sword lie everywhere like drunks. I wonder if masters vined your sword instead of watering" 3-Another kilij for Suleyman 1. 4-I try to take close view 5-Belongs to Selim the Grim. 1512 6-Close view 7-a strange ,gigantic hilted two hand Turkish dagger .19th century 8-Coralled and jewelled sword of Murat 4. 1630 9-Coralled Turkish kilij. 19th cent. 10-Another janissary | 
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|  17th February 2005, 06:01 PM | #4 | 
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			1- Ruby and emerald Iran kilij. 17th cent. 2- Ruby and emerald Turkish kilij .17th cent. See the significant similarities of scabbard decorations. 3- 2 gold engraved Turkish .17th cent. | 
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|  17th February 2005, 06:11 PM | #5 | 
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			You are making my day. Keep the Kilijs coming!!! Jeff | 
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|  17th February 2005, 06:20 PM | #6 | 
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			Simply beautiful.....as always, I came to a screeching halt when I hit the "gigantic two-handed dagger". Maybe it's a genetic quirk? **grin** Again, wonderful photos of some magnificent pieces, thank you. | 
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|  17th February 2005, 07:00 PM | #7 | 
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			Yeahh.Kilijsss. then some more 4 u 1- 18th cent. 2- hmm. shashkilij or kilijka? 19th c. Caucasus 3- 19th.c Turkish 4- Zulfikar. 16th c.. pay attention to its pommel Last edited by erlikhan; 17th February 2005 at 07:21 PM. | 
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|  18th February 2005, 11:37 PM | #8 | 
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			Erlikhan, wonderful photos!!!  I always wanted to see what Janissary armour looked like after reading about them and watching a television program on the History Channel about the Janissary.  The kilijs are wonderful.  Thanks for sharing!
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|  20th February 2005, 12:45 AM | #9 | 
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			Everybody, thanks for your interest. Then some more. 1- Balkans. 18-19 th c. 2- Balkans 3- Yataghans 4- Kilij. Iran 5-Daggers. Turkish. 19th c. 6- Dagger close view 7-Mameluke. 15th c. 8 - Iran. 16th c. 9- I didn't forget keris fans  . there is a modest collection of 10-15 pcs in the museum 10- Kerises 18-19th c 11- Morocco. 19th c 12- Mameluke. 14th c. 13- Russian. 19 th c. 14- Few from European collection. 17th c. 15- Hungarian. 19th c. 16- Says "double handed epee". Means "human hand"? More than 2 mts in length!!. 16th c. German Will continue..   Last edited by erlikhan; 20th February 2005 at 12:29 PM. | 
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|  20th February 2005, 12:51 AM | #10 | 
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			And more..
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|  18th December 2011, 03:38 PM | #11 | |
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 Salaams All ~ sorry for the double entry here ...eek cant delete this one...  please see below for correct letter. Ibrahiim | |
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|  18th December 2011, 03:41 PM | #12 | |
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 Salaams All ~ Whilst down in the basement I happened to dig up this very interesting thread which is well worth having a look at... In these pictures is what I believe to be the influence to straight Old Omani Battle Swords "Sayf." Originally the photo shows an Abaasid weapon #11 foto 11 and below that a long handled sword with no quillons but a big cuff that was also Abaasid #11 foto 12 but passed down the centuries to become a Saudia/Yemeni weapon (with a remarkably similar hilt to the Old Omani Batttle Sword.. It is not beyond reason that these two swords both influenced the Old Omani design.  Regards Ibrahiim. | |
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|  23rd December 2011, 12:28 AM | #13 | 
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			Ibrahiim, Thanks for bringing this back. I did not see this when it was first posted. Beautiful swords. Yes, the Mamluke swords look very much to be the foundation of the south arabian straight sword. I think the sword in photo 12 with the spade end is an example of the south arabian sword we have seen in the Yemeni museum, Riyadh and I think you have one.
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|  4th February 2013, 05:17 PM | #14 | |
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 Salaams Erlikhan ~ Shukran ... Your excellent pictures have inspired a new look at the Red Sea influence on Yemeni and Omani Ethnographic Arms..Kind regards. Ibrahiim al Balooshi. | |
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|  16th August 2025, 02:55 AM | #15 | 
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			I was finally able to visit the Askeri Museum this summer, and here are some pictures I took.
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|  16th August 2025, 02:57 AM | #16 | 
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			The Ayyubid and Mameluke swords are no longer grouped together but dispersed around the halls exhibiting edged weapons. Still, it was amazing to see them up close and personal.
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|  16th August 2025, 03:01 AM | #17 | 
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			The museum holds what are considered the two earliest Ottoman artefacts: the saber of Kose Mihal, an early Eastern Roman traitor to the Ottoman cause and a companion to Osman Ghazi, as well as the helmet of Orhan Ghazi, Osman's son. I am yet to find an explanation as to what links the sword in question to Kose Mihal.
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|  16th August 2025, 03:05 AM | #18 | 
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			The collection is immense, even if some of the items have questionable attributions, like the Sudano-Egyptian sword we discussed in a separate thread.
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