Katzbalgers and Related Landsknecht Swords

Matchlock · 11th April 2009, 05:41 PM

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Matchlock · 11th April 2009, 05:45 PM

That's it.

Jim McDougall · 11th April 2009, 06:07 PM

Thanks so much Michael!!! This information is really great....so far beyond the material I have at hand here.

I couldnt resist the Z

.....one of my favorite scenes in "Zorro, the Gay Blade" was when the peasantry asked the mysterious masked swordsman who he was......he dashingly swishes a Z deftly into a tree trunk......and the crowd obliviously ask........'two???'.........in maddened frustration he bellows, no!!!! not two!!! eet ees a zee!!! for I am zorro!!! and stomps off.

Now I'm really off topic !!!! Back to the katzbalgers!!!! please keep it going guys OK?

All the best,
Jim

cornelistromp · 11th April 2009, 08:28 PM

some more.

cornelistromp · 11th April 2009, 08:41 PM

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cornelistromp · 12th April 2009, 08:47 AM

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cornelistromp · 12th April 2009, 08:59 AM

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Matchlock · 12th April 2009, 04:30 PM

Stunning pieces, Cornelis!!! Thank you for sharing!

Are they yours?

Michael

Matchlock · 6th June 2009, 04:53 PM

This finely painted limewood bowl depicts secenes from the Hildesheim Feud of 1522. It is preserved at the Herzog-Anton-Ulrich-Museum in Brunswick.

Please note the representations of Landsknecht swords and early firearms.

Michael

cornelistromp · 7th June 2009, 03:09 PM

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Matchlock · 7th June 2009, 03:26 PM

Thanks for posting these, Cornelis!

What book are they taken from?

Michael

cornelistromp · 7th June 2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Matchlock

Thanks for posting these, Cornelis!

What book are they taken from?

Michael

Hi Michael,

ARMA, historia visual de armas y armaduras isbn 978-84-205-5413-6

(not very special but very nice big pictures of beautiful arms.)

best regards

Matchlock · 7th June 2009, 05:44 PM

Fantastabulous, Cornelis!

That extremely fine Swabian or Swiss Landsknecht sword, ca. 1500, came of course from the world famous Sir Samuel Rush Meyrick Collection at Goodrich Court, Herefordshire, and is illustrated in the 1830 Skelton catalog. It was acquired by the Met and deaccessioned of again at Christie's, Nov. 22-23, 1960, because the then Met staff rated it a forgery - would you believe that! It was not even illustrated in Christie's sales catalog and went to the Tower relatively cheap.

It is only life that creates stories like that ...

I am not sure wheter it is on display in the Tower or the Royal Armouriers Leeds today.

Btw, two fine pieces from the former Meyrick collection are in mine now: the four barrel Landsknecht mace, ca. 1540, posted here earlier, and an English Civil War matchlock musket, dated 1640.

Best wishes,
Michael

cornelistromp · 7th June 2009, 06:40 PM

Hi Michael,

extreme beautiful sword.

I think the language is old Dutch! not a Swiss Dialect.

Also at present auctions (auction houses) I sometimes notice that forgeries are listed as genuine and vice versa.

best regards

Matchlock · 7th June 2009, 06:51 PM

More of that unique piece.

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Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,587	Thanks so much Michael!!! This information is really great....so far beyond the material I have at hand here. I couldnt resist the Z .....one of my favorite scenes in "Zorro, the Gay Blade" was when the peasantry asked the mysterious masked swordsman who he was......he dashingly swishes a Z deftly into a tree trunk......and the crowd obliviously ask........'two???'.........in maddened frustration he bellows, no!!!! not two!!! eet ees a zee!!! for I am zorro!!! and stomps off. Now I'm really off topic !!!! Back to the katzbalgers!!!! please keep it going guys OK? All the best, Jim

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Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Stunning pieces, Cornelis!!! Thank you for sharing! Are they yours? Michael

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Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	The Marriage Bowl of Peine, Lower Saxony, Dated 1534 This finely painted limewood bowl depicts secenes from the Hildesheim Feud of 1522. It is preserved at the Herzog-Anton-Ulrich-Museum in Brunswick. Please note the representations of Landsknecht swords and early firearms. Michael Attached Images

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Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Thanks for posting these, Cornelis! What book are they taken from? Michael

7th June 2009, 05:44 PM	#13
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Fantastabulous, Cornelis! That extremely fine Swabian or Swiss Landsknecht sword, ca. 1500, came of course from the world famous Sir Samuel Rush Meyrick Collection at Goodrich Court, Herefordshire, and is illustrated in the 1830 Skelton catalog. It was acquired by the Met and deaccessioned of again at Christie's, Nov. 22-23, 1960, because the then Met staff rated it a forgery - would you believe that! It was not even illustrated in Christie's sales catalog and went to the Tower relatively cheap. It is only life that creates stories like that ... I am not sure wheter it is on display in the Tower or the Royal Armouriers Leeds today. Btw, two fine pieces from the former Meyrick collection are in mine now: the four barrel Landsknecht mace, ca. 1540, posted here earlier, and an English Civil War matchlock musket, dated 1640. Best wishes, Michael Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 7th June 2009 at 06:28 PM.

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cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,063	Hi Michael, extreme beautiful sword. I think the language is old Dutch! not a Swiss Dialect. Also at present auctions (auction houses) I sometimes notice that forgeries are listed as genuine and vice versa. best regards

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