Dagger from West Java, Sunda, for sharing & discussion

Sajen · 30th September 2018, 01:51 PM

Hello dear members,

here a dagger (badik?) from Sunda (West Java) made in Tjipatjing 1907 for sharing and discussion, handle from bone or deer horn, scabbard fittings from alpacca taken possible from a dutch packaging/box.
I think this is a seldom seen sort of dagger, would be nice to know if there are similar examples out there!

310 mm long inside scabbard, 286 mm without, blade 5 mm thick near the handle, 116 gram.

Athanase · 30th September 2018, 04:18 PM

The handle looks like some Siraui handles, and the blade a little bit too but without the bend.

Sajen · 30th September 2018, 05:28 PM

Thank you for comment Severin.

I am more as curious if there are similar examples in the collection of other forum members.

Regards,
Detlef

Sajen · 3rd November 2018, 10:18 AM

No one else have seen similar knives?

Ian · 3rd November 2018, 02:14 PM

Detlef,

It would seem that nobody else has one of these to show. The thin bolster seems unusual. Also, the place name and date remind me of the Tjikeroeh swords and knives of the late 19th C. and early 20th C. that seem to have been produced for the Dutch colonial and domestic markets.

Ian

Sajen · 3rd November 2018, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

It would seem that nobody else has one of these to show. The thin bolster seems unusual. Also, the place name and date remind me of the Tjikeroeh swords and knives of the late 19th C. and early 20th C. that seem to have been produced for the Dutch colonial and domestic markets.

Hi Ian,

thank you for comment.

Yes, this knife coming from Sunda. I think that I've seen a few similar pieces before but can't remember where and when. Would has been nice to see a few others for comparison. Sadly it seems that you are correct by this point as well.

Regards,
Detlef

30th September 2018, 01:51 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Dagger from West Java, Sunda, for sharing & discussion Hello dear members, here a dagger (badik?) from Sunda (West Java) made in Tjipatjing 1907 for sharing and discussion, handle from bone or deer horn, scabbard fittings from alpacca taken possible from a dutch packaging/box. I think this is a seldom seen sort of dagger, would be nice to know if there are similar examples out there! 310 mm long inside scabbard, 286 mm without, blade 5 mm thick near the handle, 116 gram. Attached Images

30th September 2018, 04:18 PM	#2
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 417	The handle looks like some Siraui handles, and the blade a little bit too but without the bend.

30th September 2018, 05:28 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Thank you for comment Severin. I am more as curious if there are similar examples in the collection of other forum members. Regards, Detlef

3rd November 2018, 10:18 AM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	No one else have seen similar knives?

3rd November 2018, 02:14 PM	#5
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	Detlef, It would seem that nobody else has one of these to show. The thin bolster seems unusual. Also, the place name and date remind me of the Tjikeroeh swords and knives of the late 19th C. and early 20th C. that seem to have been produced for the Dutch colonial and domestic markets. Ian