Another powder flask for comment

corrado26 · 14th August 2017, 03:37 PM

I got this powderflask last week and wonder if there are some remarks to make. Some screws have been apparently replaced, the spring on top of the cover is new and the spring at the spout is missing.
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Marcus den toom · 15th August 2017, 01:53 PM

Hi Corrado,

Michael did a good thread on these "caliverman" flask and has a few examples nearly identical to yours dateable to 1580-1600s

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...man%27s+flasks

fernando · 15th August 2017, 05:17 PM

Very nice piece, Corrado. Hopefully for a price based on its repairs and missing parts

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I wish i had one of those, though

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corrado26 · 15th August 2017, 07:14 PM

Marcus, many thanks for this very interesting link and yes, Fernando, the price for the powderflask was reasonable, nevertheless it was not a gift
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Tony PP · 16th August 2017, 07:08 PM

Hello, It appears to me that the Flask has been repaired in an enthusiastic manner rather than in a sympathetic way. The steel banding does not match or blend in. The hanging screws and backing plates in the photographs look new . The powder lever on the body of the flask , difficult to see from the pictures but appears to show little sign of an age. The lever on the spout again looks rather new and shows no sign of wear or a spring ever being riveted to it. I suppose the question is --- Was the flask a quick field repair from many years ago or just put together for a sale ????

Marcus den toom · 17th August 2017, 12:33 PM

The fact it has been repaired would rather point towards actuall use than to mal intent by the seller.

I have no idea if there is a provenance but it would be most likely used during the tthirty years war where everything ran low.
We know from Michael his threads that many haquebut barrels from the 1500s where reused in guns for the thirthy years war, beeing obsolete. Such was the need for arms.. i can imagine something similar for powder flask.

Fun thing with this piece is that it is hinged on the top. If you where to unscrew the screw opposite the hinges it would open up and offer an insight into the inner bowles of this flask.. maybe even proof of black powder

14th August 2017, 03:37 PM	#1
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,240	Another powder flask for comment I got this powderflask last week and wonder if there are some remarks to make. Some screws have been apparently replaced, the spring on top of the cover is new and the spring at the spout is missing. corrado26 Attached Images

15th August 2017, 01:53 PM	#2
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 541	Hi Corrado, Michael did a good thread on these "caliverman" flask and has a few examples nearly identical to yours dateable to 1580-1600s http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...man%27s+flasks

15th August 2017, 05:17 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Very nice piece, Corrado. Hopefully for a price based on its repairs and missing parts . I wish i had one of those, though .

15th August 2017, 07:14 PM	#4
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,240	Marcus, many thanks for this very interesting link and yes, Fernando, the price for the powderflask was reasonable, nevertheless it was not a gift corrado26

16th August 2017, 07:08 PM	#5
Tony PP Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 26	Hello, It appears to me that the Flask has been repaired in an enthusiastic manner rather than in a sympathetic way. The steel banding does not match or blend in. The hanging screws and backing plates in the photographs look new . The powder lever on the body of the flask , difficult to see from the pictures but appears to show little sign of an age. The lever on the spout again looks rather new and shows no sign of wear or a spring ever being riveted to it. I suppose the question is --- Was the flask a quick field repair from many years ago or just put together for a sale ????

17th August 2017, 12:33 PM	#6
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 541	The fact it has been repaired would rather point towards actuall use than to mal intent by the seller. I have no idea if there is a provenance but it would be most likely used during the tthirty years war where everything ran low. We know from Michael his threads that many haquebut barrels from the 1500s where reused in guns for the thirthy years war, beeing obsolete. Such was the need for arms.. i can imagine something similar for powder flask. Fun thing with this piece is that it is hinged on the top. If you where to unscrew the screw opposite the hinges it would open up and offer an insight into the inner bowles of this flask.. maybe even proof of black powder