Ilongot bolo for comment

Sajen · 29th March 2015, 03:10 PM

Just get the information that I've won by a german auction house this rare Ilongot bolo, called "takip ny bekur", blade lenght is 36 cm (14,2 "). So far I know this are woman knives. Coming from the collection of Dietmar Scheit, Berlin. It was described as African bolo.

I have seen only few others here before, see here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=Ilongot post #43 and an other one but can't find the thread but have attached the picture for comparison. My "new" one is the one with the lizard at the scabbard.
All comments are very welcome.

Battara · 29th March 2015, 08:40 PM

Congratulations my friend! These don't come up often and yours is complete!

Sajen · 29th March 2015, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Congratulations my friend! These don't come up often and yours is complete!

Thank you Jose!

It's funny that I find it in Germany instead of the States. I am not sure if it is complete, it could be that at the foot of the scabbard something is missing.

Regards,
Detlef

kino · 30th March 2015, 01:55 AM

Nice catch, Sajen.
I love the weaving on the scabbard, never seen one like it.
Thanks for sharing.

Sajen · 30th March 2015, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kino

Nice catch, Sajen.
I love the weaving on the scabbard, never seen one like it.
Thanks for sharing.

Thank you Kino, my enjoy!

Robert · 30th March 2015, 04:35 AM

Detlef, Another great score to go with the Mandya dagger you posted earlier and all in one month.

I hope that you do not mind, but I have done a little work on your photo in hopes of showing the detailing a bit better. They still are not the best, but they are the best that I can do.

Best,
Robert

Sajen · 30th March 2015, 10:27 AM

Thank you Robert,
yes, I've had great luck to add this two rare pieces to my collection. Funnily, both pieces were described wrong as African, so maybe overlooked by others. I will show detail pictures when I have received the bolo.

Regards,
Detlef

ariel · 30th March 2015, 12:33 PM

Interesting how the tip of the scabbard reminds of the Taiwanese pattern.

Sajen · 30th March 2015, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ariel

Interesting how the tip of the scabbard reminds of the Taiwanese pattern.

Now when you mentioned it, yes indeed, very interesting!

Ian · 31st March 2015, 06:36 PM

Detlef:

Great pick up -- these are very hard to find. Do you see anywhere that MOP "dangles" might have been attached. I think such ornaments are quite common on these swords and so far I have not seen one without some MOP on it.

BTW, it is interesting that you have a lizard/crocodile depicted on your example, as I have often thought that the scabbards themselves resembled a lizard/crocodile (with the head at the toe of the scabbard and the remainder representing its body)--the wrap could be modeled after the shape of its scales. Just a thought.

Here is a link to the pictures of my two in an earlier discussion http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...5&postcount=43

Ian.

Sajen · 31st March 2015, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian

Detlef:

Great pick up -- these are very hard to find. Do you see anywhere that MOP "dangles" might have been attached. I think such ornaments are quite common on these swords and so far I have not seen one without some MOP on it.

BTW, it is interesting that you have a lizard/crocodile depicted on your example, as I have often thought that the scabbards themselves resembled a lizard/crocodile (with the head at the toe of the scabbard and the remainder representing its body)--the wrap could be modeled after the shape of its scales. Just a thought.

Here is a link to the pictures of my two in an earlier discussion http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...5&postcount=43

Ian.

Hello Ian,

thank you for comment.

I still don't have it in my hands but will look for "dangles" when I have received it. I am also still not sure if there is something missing at the toe of the scabbard.

Interesting thoughts about the lizard, good possible.
Your both are very nice examples, I've given a link to them in my first post already.

Regards,
Detlef

Tim Simmons · 31st March 2015, 07:30 PM

Interesting scabbard with the lizard motif. This not the same weapon but from the same part of the world. When I first post pictures of it here many years ago because it had a gecko/salamander motif on the scabbard it was deemed a late 20th century tourist piece? I think we are past that now?

Sajen · 31st March 2015, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Interesting scabbard with the lizard motif. This not the same weapon but from the same part of the world. When I first post pictures of it here many years ago because it had a gecko/salamander motif on the scabbard it was deemed a late 20th century tourist piece? I think we are past that now?

Hello Tim,
have a very similar hinalung, see here, post #3: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=bontoc and my one have for sure a good age, clearly not a tourist piece. At the side of the open scabbard is attached a nail for a carrying belt and think to see it by yours as well, I think a sign of real use. You have enough experience to tell if the patination on your piece is old, so what you think byself? The lizard could be a gecko, a animal about many Asian ethnics think that it have some magic. In Java the people think for example when this animal give noise seven times in a row that you will have good luck.

Regards,
Detlef

Battara · 1st April 2015, 12:51 AM

Here is a note: the aboriginal Taiwanese and Philippine peoples are genetically and linguistically related, as well as with the rest of the region.

Sajen · 18th April 2015, 10:11 PM

Finally I have received the bolo and I am more as happy with my purchase. There are no signs that something is missing at the toe of the scabbard and Ian was correct, there have been once MOP dangles at the scabbard but only one is still complete present. All wooden parts show a very nice glossy patina and the blade is in very good condition. Here some additional pictures.

29th March 2015, 03:10 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,761	Ilongot bolo for comment Just get the information that I've won by a german auction house this rare Ilongot bolo, called "takip ny bekur", blade lenght is 36 cm (14,2 "). So far I know this are woman knives. Coming from the collection of Dietmar Scheit, Berlin. It was described as African bolo. I have seen only few others here before, see here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=Ilongot post #43 and an other one but can't find the thread but have attached the picture for comparison. My "new" one is the one with the lizard at the scabbard. All comments are very welcome. Attached Images Last edited by Sajen; 29th March 2015 at 03:41 PM.

30th March 2015, 04:35 AM	#6
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Detlef, Another great score to go with the Mandya dagger you posted earlier and all in one month. I hope that you do not mind, but I have done a little work on your photo in hopes of showing the detailing a bit better. They still are not the best, but they are the best that I can do. Best, Robert Attached Images

31st March 2015, 07:30 PM	#12
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	Interesting scabbard with the lizard motif. This not the same weapon but from the same part of the world. When I first post pictures of it here many years ago because it had a gecko/salamander motif on the scabbard it was deemed a late 20th century tourist piece? I think we are past that now? Attached Images

18th April 2015, 10:11 PM	#15
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,761	Finally I have received the bolo and I am more as happy with my purchase. There are no signs that something is missing at the toe of the scabbard and Ian was correct, there have been once MOP dangles at the scabbard but only one is still complete present. All wooden parts show a very nice glossy patina and the blade is in very good condition. Here some additional pictures. Attached Images

29th March 2015, 08:40 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	Congratulations my friend! These don't come up often and yours is complete!

30th March 2015, 01:55 AM	#4
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,002	Nice catch, Sajen. I love the weaving on the scabbard, never seen one like it. Thanks for sharing.

30th March 2015, 10:27 AM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,761	Thank you Robert, yes, I've had great luck to add this two rare pieces to my collection. Funnily, both pieces were described wrong as African, so maybe overlooked by others. I will show detail pictures when I have received the bolo. Regards, Detlef

30th March 2015, 12:33 PM	#8
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Interesting how the tip of the scabbard reminds of the Taiwanese pattern.

31st March 2015, 06:36 PM	#10
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,194	Detlef: Great pick up -- these are very hard to find. Do you see anywhere that MOP "dangles" might have been attached. I think such ornaments are quite common on these swords and so far I have not seen one without some MOP on it. BTW, it is interesting that you have a lizard/crocodile depicted on your example, as I have often thought that the scabbards themselves resembled a lizard/crocodile (with the head at the toe of the scabbard and the remainder representing its body)--the wrap could be modeled after the shape of its scales. Just a thought. Here is a link to the pictures of my two in an earlier discussion http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...5&postcount=43 Ian.

1st April 2015, 12:51 AM	#14
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	Here is a note: the aboriginal Taiwanese and Philippine peoples are genetically and linguistically related, as well as with the rest of the region.