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Old 7th August 2023, 07:40 PM   #1
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Default Wootz ingot / true Damascus

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Imagine having a terrible preserved wootz sword/saber etc. Should you be converting this into an ingot?

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Old 7th August 2023, 07:52 PM   #2
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Old 7th August 2023, 07:53 PM   #3
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Pictures please. I'm chismoso!
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Old 7th August 2023, 11:06 PM   #4
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Hypothetical idea of course. It popped in head as I watched my tulwars / talwars.
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Old 8th August 2023, 05:02 PM   #6
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Thanks for the picture. Honestly from what I understand of the chemistry of the process I do not believe that if you took these three blades and melted them into a liquid state to create a new ingot that the resultant steel would display a wootz pattern. The possible exception (my theory) would be cutting them into small pieces, placing them into a crucible with leaves, glass, maybe some charcoal dust and sealing the crucible. Then heat the crucible slowly to the perfect temperature, I have seen several theories on what that is, and slowly cooling that over a long period. Basically, recreating the process in which the crystalline structure was formed in the first place. Interesting idea, but historically destructive. If this was my dream, I would be more inclined to repeat the Al Pendray experiment of tracking down an old mine used in historical wootz production so that you had a better chance of the correct chemical composition. Getting together 80 kg minimum of ore and processing that. Probably 320 0r 400 kg would be a better goal in that would give you 4-5 chances to get the process right given you could properly forge the wootz once it was an ingot. Interestingly enough, I discovered an iron deposit (mostly large chunks of iron oxide mixed with sand and trace gold) recently at work that I have been collecting and storing in the hope that someday I will have spare time and health enough to finish the project that I dreamed of with my grandfather when I was 12. Ironically, I would be at roughly the same age he was when we dreamed of making wootz by the time I have the time I get around to the experiment

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Old 8th August 2023, 05:35 PM   #7
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Thank you for your extensive reply.

The high risks of destroying or changing the wootz properties are off putting.
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